Greg, Get outta my head!? Based on some of the data I've been getting, I'd really like to take a shot at nailing down some identifying characteristics of the Herzog vs. Pooley cabinets.? The cloven hooves appear in the Pooley patent drawing, so that one's fairly straighforward - as long as other characteristics follow the same pattern.? This morning I sent a couple of emails to owners asking for more information - - including 3 of the 4 characteristics you've mentioned, plus whether blue marker pencil was used on the outside far end of the drawers, and if numbers were stamped into the interior or chalked.? Right now I don't know what any of these things mean - if anything - but I'm looking for patterns.? I surely appreciate your input, Greg, and once new data peters out (it has almost stopped already at about 30 1As and a dozen 1Bs), I'm going to start bugging owners again.? Thanks for your suggestions - - I'll include height, lock type, number of louvers, and foot style in my next inquiry, along with those interior markings...
Best regards, George -----Original Message----- From: Greg Bogantz <[email protected]> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org> Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 3:23 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B George, I'll be sending the data on my 1A and 1B to you separately. But I got to thinking that there may be some more variations among these early amberolas that you ought to explore. Several years ago there was some discussion on some of the phono boards about the rarity - or not - of the "split hoof" foot on the early Pooley cabinet (third picture from left on page 163 of Frow). In my experience most of the Pooley 1As that I've seen have the split hoof. Whereas my 1B has the lion's paw feet. It would be interesting if you also gathered this information from our readers. Also, I think I've seen newer Pooley style cabinets (perhaps actually made by Edison) that did not have the grille louvers on the sides of the cabinet. Frow also mentions that variations of the Pooley cabinet were made such that the same cabinet could be used for both amberolas and the first disc machines. He says that there is a height variation of some 2 inches among these versions. And evidently only the earliest Herzog cabinets had the flat lock key whereas the later cabinets used the more common barrel style key. So I'm suggesting that you add four more items to your questionnaire: -- Style of front foot (split hoof, lion's paw, other) -- Presence and number of louvers on cabinet side -- Height of cabinet (not counting casters) -- Type of key (flat or barrel) Greg Bogantz ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:46 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B > > I'm asking for data from owners of Amberolas 1A and 1B. I'm > working on an article on the early Amberolas, similar to a study done > on suitcase "Homes" two years ago and published in "The Sound Box." > Data received will be compiled in an article scheduled to appear in the > March 2009 issue of "The Sound Box," and all contributors will be > acknowledged. (If you'd like your data/identity to be kept > confidential, I will of course honor your wishes. I can be contacted > directly at gpaul2000 at aol.com.) > > I'm looking for the following information from owners of Amberolas 1A or > 1B: > > 1) Type (1A or 1B)? > 2) Serial Number (and do data plate and mechanism numbers match? > 3) Lid: smooth or stepped? > 4) Upper front corner posts: plain or carved? > 5) Grille: Lyre, first rococo, or second rococo (all shown on page 163 of > Frow)? > 6) Apron (bottom of cabinet): wavy or more flattened (as shown on page 163 > of Frow)? > 7) Drawers: wooden separators or metal clips? > > I will gratefully accept data here at Phono-L, or at gpaul2000 at aol.com. > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > Best to all, > George Paul > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
