Thanks for the information, again! Ok, how about the HMV Lumiere? I've heard them and thought they sounded fairly marvelous, though certainly midrange-centric... What's the linkage on the back of the diaphragm? How does it translate lateral groove modulation to a diaphragm that sits perpendicular to it? I suspect a 90-degree angle is involved. Anyone?
Best as always, Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Lateral Vs Vertical. > Dear Mr. Wright: > I have a Pathe Actuelle which use a paper cone drive by a mechanical > connection to the playback stylus, not as directly as the diffuser you > mention. > Very pure sound but definitely mid-rage only, the mass of the linkage > eliminating higher frequencys & since there is no baffle to the cone, > the lower frequencys are weakened by the air moved by the back of the > cone, > out of phase with that moved by the front of the cone cancelling it. > If there had been some way to provide a baffle for the cone, the low > frequency responce would have been far better. > > Very truly > yours, > > Immortal > Performances > > jimcip at earthlink.net > EarthLink Revolves Around You. > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Robert Wright <esroberto at hotmail.com> >> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org> >> Date: 03-Nov-2008 5:57:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Lateral Vs Vertical. >> >> Jim, Greg, Steve, and Thomas :-), >> >> Thanks very much for all the insight. I hadn't considered the > possibility >> that vertical was inferior, but vertical companies worked that much > harder >> for better sound; I assumed all other things were probably even. I do > find >> it strange that so many vertical recordings by so many companies had >> superior sound to so many laterals, including as pointed out below, >> individual labels who issued records cut both ways. >> >> Anyone have any impressions of the Path? Diffusor? I would think that > being >> a large diaphragm with a jewel tip sitting directly on the recorded > groove, >> it would be the most direct playback mechanism of any that have existed. >> Right? No pivot point to worry about, just the simplest physics around > -- >> true analog, as it were, the only example of it since Edison's original >> prototype, yes? Has anyone thought to try improving upon that particular >> playback methodology? >> >> Thanks again, all. I'm storing these in a special folder to revisit from >> time to time. >> >> Best to all, >> Robert >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Thomas Edison" <edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com> >> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org> >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 4:10 PM >> Subject: [Phono-L] Lateral Vs Vertical. >> >> >> > Hello everyone. Thinking of the L and V issue, I have a very simple >> > response from cutting records. I had recorded Laquers with the > Fairchild >> > lathe , in order to record high frequencies, I had to boost them to a >> > dangerous level almost burning the coil up. When you record you boost >> > highs and limit the lows, and the opposite when you play them back. I >> > used the same head to record hill and dale cylinder records on Edison >> > blanks, and could record the cylinders almost flat, and the lows and > highs >> > sounded very similar to the original recording, and the highs did not > have >> > to be boosted to the dangerous levels of the lateral disc of which the >> > head was designed to cut, so it certainly seems that it is harder to >> > record highs on lateral recordings than vertical. Some of you on the > list >> > have some of these electrically recorded cylinders in your collections >> > with modern music on them, you can state the same I am sure. When it >> > comes to bass however, vertical records are much harder as li >> > fts occur, but you can increase the ambient wax temperature and record >> > deeper grooves, and record more bass The lowest bass note I had > recorded >> > on cylinders was 16 cps, however this was a test tone, with no other >> > frequencies added, it was very difficult to do but can be done. > Lateral >> > records record bass with relative ease, however if the volume is to > high >> > the grooves run into eachother and must be spaced apart more. (Most > modern >> > recording lathes do this automatically.) If you listen to companies > that >> > recorded lateral and vertical records you can hear much clearer > records, >> > with vertical recordings time and time again. Pathe', Gennette ect. >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. >> > > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns > !20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Phono-L mailing list >> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
