Hi all
I had not been able to sign into my eBay account for a week. I signed on as a 
guest and reported the problem. No response from eBay. Finally today I signed 
onto a friend's account and got onto the Live Help area. After reporting my 
problem, the eBay rep asked me to sign out of my friend's account and back on 
via the Guest sign on.? I did so, and identified myself to the new rep and 
reported my problem. She checked into it and found that my account had been 
tampered with by someone else who attempted to change my email and password. 
eBay caught it in time and suspended the account. They did not tell me if any 
listings had been made, but they did say that if any were placed that they had 
been removed and credited.
Here's the scary part - I checked my eBay message box and there was an alert 
from eBay informing me that my account had been accessed by unauthorized 
persons and that they had taken action to secure it. I recognized the alert as 
having been emailed to me a few days ago, but it went to my spam box, not my 
regular email box. I deleted it thinking it was spam, because it said 'your 
account may have been accessed by unauthorized parties'. This is a typical 
phishing line that is used in emails where account information is sought by 
scaring you into thinking there is a problem.
So the moral is read those spam emails, they may be for real!
John Robles
From [email protected]  Mon Dec 15 13:34:54 2008
From: [email protected] (Carr, John P (GE Infra, Energy))
Date: Mon Dec 15 20:31:32 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Unknown Victor?
Message-ID: <83ed3a40994c4049816f85f3e9030f1b066fe...@alpmlvem14.e2k.ad.ge.com>

I just saw an external horn tabletop phonograph at an antique store for
1400. I have never seen one like it before. It has a very elaborate wood
case with a glass window in front of the motor. The case is tall with a
drawer in the side. The is a victor decal on the front. I could not find
a name plate. Can anyone tell me what this is?
From [email protected]  Mon Dec 15 20:37:20 2008
From: [email protected] (Loran Hughes)
Date: Mon Dec 15 20:37:30 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Unknown Victor?
In-Reply-To: <83ed3a40994c4049816f85f3e9030f1b066fe...@alpmlvem14.e2k.ad.ge.com>
References: <83ed3a40994c4049816f85f3e9030f1b066fe...@alpmlvem14.e2k.ad.ge.com>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

It's a crapophone.

Regards,
Loran

On Dec 15, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Carr, John P (GE Infra, Energy) wrote:

> I just saw an external horn tabletop phonograph at an antique store  
> for
> 1400. I have never seen one like it before. It has a very elaborate  
> wood
> case with a glass window in front of the motor. The case is tall  
> with a
> drawer in the side. The is a victor decal on the front. I could not  
> find
> a name plate. Can anyone tell me what this is?
From [email protected]  Mon Dec 15 20:38:15 2008
From: [email protected] (john robles)
Date: Mon Dec 15 20:39:06 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Unknown Victor?
In-Reply-To: <83ed3a40994c4049816f85f3e9030f1b066fe...@alpmlvem14.e2k.ad.ge.com>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Sounds like an India-made reproduction. Actually they are not reproduction, 
they are new inventions. The motors come from suitcase portables, the cabinets 
and horns are newly made, and the decals usually are not like any decal ever 
used on an original phonograph. I would stay well clear of it, and I am 
thinking the antiques dealer got taken (I hope he is not trying to swindle 
anyone!).
You can see a picture of these items on sbay by searching on 'Gramophone'. I 
have seen the model you describe.
John Robles

--- On Mon, 12/15/08, Carr, John P (GE Infra, Energy) <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Carr, John P (GE Infra, Energy) <[email protected]>
Subject: [Phono-L] Unknown Victor?
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 1:34 PM

I just saw an external horn tabletop phonograph at an antique store for
1400. I have never seen one like it before. It has a very elaborate wood
case with a glass window in front of the motor. The case is tall with a
drawer in the side. The is a victor decal on the front. I could not find
a name plate. Can anyone tell me what this is?
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From [email protected]  Tue Dec 16 04:19:12 2008
From: [email protected] (George)
Date: Tue Dec 16 04:19:22 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Unknown Victor?
References: <83ed3a40994c4049816f85f3e9030f1b066fe...@alpmlvem14.e2k.ad.ge.com>
Message-ID: <93c164b83b3b42f980465e0f581f9...@valuedcb7d4c82>

Sure sounds like a Crapophone.
George
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carr, John P (GE Infra, Energy) 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:34 PM
  Subject: [Phono-L] Unknown Victor?


  I just saw an external horn tabletop phonograph at an antique store for
  1400. I have never seen one like it before. It has a very elaborate wood
  case with a glass window in front of the motor. The case is tall with a
  drawer in the side. The is a victor decal on the front. I could not find
  a name plate. Can anyone tell me what this is?
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