Hello all, My name is Matt and I leave in Texas. In the past I have worked on
old Tube
radios and audio equipment. This is my first try at crank up radios (not all
the way true, when I was 9 I took apart an old phonograph). I am looking
forward to learning and sharing what I can about old phonographs. Bear with me
as I try to describe a part since
I don?t know the name of things(is there a diagram with part names), please
correct me so I can learn the names. I found a Arophone (I think part of the
label
is gone) crank up phonograph in the trash. I could tell the main spring was
broken. Then I was given a
Cecilian crank up phonograph that cranked and turned but the pot metal at the
base of the tone arm was shot. So I took them apart and to my surprise they
where the same mechanism. Both are made Heineman Flayer. Both of them where
full
of Hard Dirty Grease I mean full. So I
scraped as much as the crap off them as I could a put the whole thing in
Diesel Fuel to soak for a few days. Then I took them apart and cleaned them all
spotless clean. I lubricated them with Gun Lube, 30 weight and reassembled them.
Now to my questions;
What
do I lube the spring with?When
the reproducer sits on the record is perpendicular to it?Does
the full weight of the reproducer set on the record?Is
there a certain angle the tone arm tracks across the record?Is
there a Santa Claus?
Thanks for the help??regards, matt
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From [email protected] Sat Jan 17 19:47:20 2009
From: [email protected] (wayne holznagel)
Date: Sat Jan 17 19:54:14 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] Introduction and first questions
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Hi Matt,
Welcome to the list.?
I would suggest you pick up a copy of The Compleat Talking Machine by Reiss.?
It's a great guide to restoring phonographs.? Covers cabinet and motor
restoration.? Good investment.?
Now, on a different subject . . . a few years ago I scanned an Artophone
phonograph parts cabinet to CD and offered copies free to members of the list.?
It has pictures of the motor you refer to.? It was a motor that smaller
manufacturers would purchase to put in their cabinets.? If you, or any one
else, would like one of the cds ?just send me an email offlist to
[email protected] .? It may take me a few days to make up the copies but I
eventually get to them.? The various parts you refer to as well as a wide range
of accessories are pictured in this neat little resource.? I think it runs to
about 125 pgs all together.
<:)>
Wayne H
?
My website is at http://www.phonomantiques.com/
--- On Sat, 1/17/09, matt hager <[email protected]> wrote:
From: matt hager <[email protected]>
Subject: [Phono-L] Introduction and first questions
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 9:11 PM
Hello all, My name is Matt and I leave in Texas. In the past I have worked on
old Tube
radios and audio equipment. This is my first try at crank up radios (not all
the way true, when I was 9 I took apart an old phonograph). I am looking
forward to learning and sharing what I can about old phonographs. Bear with me
as I try to describe a part since
I don?t know the name of things(is there a diagram with part names), please
correct me so I can learn the names. I found a Arophone (I think part of the
label
is gone) crank up phonograph in the trash. I could tell the main spring was
broken. Then I was given a
Cecilian crank up phonograph that cranked and turned but the pot metal at the
base of the tone arm was shot. So I took them apart and to my surprise they
where the same mechanism. Both are made Heineman Flayer. Both of them where
full
of Hard Dirty Grease I mean full. So I
scraped as much as the crap off them as I could a put the whole thing in
Diesel Fuel to soak for a few days. Then I took them apart and cleaned them all
spotless clean. I lubricated them with Gun Lube, 30 weight and reassembled
them.
Now to my questions;
What
do I lube the spring with?When
the reproducer sits on the record is perpendicular to it?Does
the full weight of the reproducer set on the record?Is
there a certain angle the tone arm tracks across the record?Is
there a Santa Claus?
Thanks for the help??regards, matt
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From [email protected] Sat Jan 17 20:24:40 2009
From: [email protected] (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Sat Jan 17 21:25:10 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] Introduction and first questions
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <dd2671744f374bf1abf2129358ab8...@ronlherault>
Wayne gave you some good advice.
Lube the governor bearings with light oil, and put a drop of it on the shaft
where the disk moves. Also oil the pads that rub on the governor (the thing
with the two or three weights mounted on springs, one end of which is
stationary and the other is attached to a disk that slides).
If the spring cans are open, spoon in a couple teaspoons of
graphite-containing moly grease. I got mine at an auto parts store. Do not
try to pull the springs out of the cans. They will unwind and expand with
quite a bit of force and have sharp edges..
There were a lot of off-brand phonos that used generic parts. Often
furniture stores would sell machines under their own name.
You can use JB Weld to recreate missing parts of and repair cast parts of
tone arms. E-bay is also a good source for odd parts.
Ron L
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of matt hager
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Phono-L] Introduction and first questions
Hello all, My name is Matt and I leave in Texas. In the past I have worked
on old Tube
radios and audio equipment. This is my first try at crank up radios (not all
the way true, when I was 9 I took apart an old phonograph). I am looking
forward to learning and sharing what I can about old phonographs. Bear with
me as I try to describe a part since
I don't know the name of things(is there a diagram with part names), please
correct me so I can learn the names. I found a Arophone (I think part of
the label
is gone) crank up phonograph in the trash. I could tell the main spring was
broken. Then I was given a
Cecilian crank up phonograph that cranked and turned but the pot metal at
the
base of the tone arm was shot. So I took them apart and to my surprise they
where the same mechanism. Both are made Heineman Flayer. Both of them where
full
of Hard Dirty Grease I mean full. So I
scraped as much as the crap off them as I could a put the whole thing in
Diesel Fuel to soak for a few days. Then I took them apart and cleaned them
all
spotless clean. I lubricated them with Gun Lube, 30 weight and reassembled
them.
Now to my questions;
What
do I lube the spring with?When
the reproducer sits on the record is perpendicular to it?Does
the full weight of the reproducer set on the record?Is
there a certain angle the tone arm tracks across the record?Is
there a Santa Claus?
Thanks for the help..regards, matt
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