I know that Victor acquired Zonophone in 1904. The Zonophone Exhibition
Style long throat reproducer would have been contemporaneous to the
Victor version. So..., the question is when was this first used by
Victor? The Zonophone version would have been considered an upgrade from
the Concert-V. Your machine would have been sold with the Concert-V.
There is no doubt that there is better sound quality with the Zonophone
Exhibition Style reproducer.

So, the best answer that I can give you is that the Zonophone Exhibition
Style reproducer would have been used after 1904. It is possible that
the original owner upgraded at the point of purchase, or at a later
date. Do you have a paper label on the bottom of your case? There may be
a production date. 

Any other Zono collectors out there with any thoughts on this question?

Jeff
Wisconsin

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Andrew Baron
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:53 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Zonophone Question - This one makes me a little
nervous!

Does anyone know when the Concert V gave way to the later style  
(similar to the Victor Exhibition) reproducer with the red lettering?

I would love to be able to narrow down the likely date of production  
of my Grand Opera, which has the later type of reproducer (although  
the cabinet is purely traditional Zonophone style with the embossed  
metal top plate, S-shaped crank, Zonophone type motor, etc).

I have provenance on this machine back to the early '30s, and it's  
known that this late style reproducer was on the machine then, so it's  
likely that it's been with it since new or nearly new.

Thanks in advance for any insight whatsoever, even if it's a rough  
estimate of that time frame.

Andy Baron
Santa Fe


On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Jeffry Young, D.O. wrote:

> John,
>
> You are correct! I have seen these pictures before! If you had not  
> found
> this, you can easily tell that the horn is not polished in the added
> pictures. Also, the reproducer is the later Exhibition style Zonophone
> red faced reproducer, not the Concert-V that is in the original  
> picture.
>
>
> The original picture looks like one of "firebottles" zonophone auction
> pictures?
>
> So..., who is the expert at reporting fraud to ebay? How does one do
> this. There are already 3 bidders?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> Wisconsin
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