It is from Brian Rust's "American Record Label Book", from 1978, page 88.
Rust cites a November 1969 Record Research article by George A. Blacker.  It
looks like the passage of time and further research as improved the
information available.


Ron L


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Glenn Longwell
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:22 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Crescent Silvertone

Ron,

I would like to know what book that is and, if possible, get scans of the
pages that talk about Crescent.  I believe these statements, for the most
part, are incorrect.  I have several ads for Crescent phonographs stating
they have a reproducer that plays both style records.  In fact, the parts
arm of Crescent sold to other phonograph makers the "Playsall" tonearm,
meant to play both vertical and lateral.  As for who made the records for
Crescent the 8" series I'm quite positve were made by Operaphone.  It seems
obvious by visual inspection but I'm in the process of looking for other
proof.  Sutton mentions a 2nd series pressed by Rex Talking Machine Co.  I
don't have any examples of those.  The last series were based off of Pathe
masters.  All were vertical and I don't believe the last series was made
vertical by accident.  This was still late 1917 so they would have stayed
away from lateral by the Victor/Columbia patents, unless the original plan
was
 for universal cut.  Sutton does make mention of what you say though.  I
quote - "George Blacker's conjecture - published in Record Research - that
sales fo the final series were poor because the records were incompatible
with Crescent phonographs, is incorrect.  Most Crescent models were fitted
with universal reproducers capable of playing steel-needle vertical-cut
discs." 

Glenn


________________________________
From: Ron L'Herault <[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 11:54:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Crescent Silvertone

A book I have say that the Crescent was a lateral machine so the arm or at
least the end with the reproducer may not be (probably is not) original.
Crescent records were made by Pathe who, in error made them vertical cut,
but to be played with a needle ala Aeolian, rather than with a ball stylus
ala Pathe. This is one reason the phono company didn't last.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Glenn Longwell
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:46 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Crescent Silvertone

Came home today with a Crescent Talking Machine Co. "Silvertone"
phonograph.  Somewhat rough shape but was interested in it because they
distributed the Crescent line of vertical cut records in the teens.  So it
comes with a swivel tonearm to play both lateral and vertical.  Anyone have
any literature from this company showing the various models of phonographs
they produced?  I'd love a scan of anything anyone has for my research on
these companies dealing with vertical cut records.

October has been vertical month.  Have ended up with about 75 vertical cut
records this month from the obscure brands (not Pathe, Edison, Okeh,
Paramount) and now the Crescent phonograph.  Life is good...

Thanks,
Glenn
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