Ger, The proper terms for these parts are the 'limit pin' and 'limit loop', so called because together they limit the travel of the weight assembly. The diamond is a 'stylus' (that term implying a jeweled, permanent point) and it is mounted into the 'stylus bar' and is mounted on a pin between two 'bosses'. The stylus bar is connected to the diaphragm via the 'linkage' consisting of a braided silk cord with metal eyelets on either end. The weight (as stated in a previous post, swivels at one end via the 'hinge block'. All this is mounted to the 'body' of the reproducer which consists of a 'sound chamber', a 'tail' where the hinge block attaches, and a 'neck' or 'throat' that connects to the mount at the horn. There's your basic nomenclature.
> From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:16:09 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison London Console > > HOWEVER, what I did notice (forgive me for not knowing proper terms): the > small metal prong which is most forward in position on the reproducer, and > sits in a V-shaped hook from the top (it goes up and down and side to side). > Anywho, this prong was BENT to one side. I just straightened it, or at least > got it to move symmetrically. I'm guessing that that bend might make the > thing track badly, possibly causing damage to the record grooves?? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Baron > To: Antique Phonograph List > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison London Console > > > First, use a flashlight to see if there's anything back there. If > there is, you can inquire of this group on the procedure for removing > the slats. > > Regarding the stubborn horn movement, are you doing the right thing > when trying to move the horn assembly? Are you aware of how to work > the wood lever that's in the front right corner under the lid, and > that you must first pivot it over to the right until it's horizontal, > before rotating it counter-clockwise, along with a guiding hand on the > upper part, to swivel the whole works, while the lever is still rocked > all the way over level? > > It's possible that there's a mechanical issue but you first want to be > familiar with how to operate that lever to control the entire movement > of the horn and neck. > > It's also good to be aware that the damaged, etched grooves on the > records can be caused - not only by playing on a different kind of > phonograph that has a steel needle (or with a steel-needle adaptor on > an Edison), but also if played on a proper Edison disc machine, IF the > diamond on the Edison reproducer is chipped or damaged. So it's > possible you may be in the market for a new stylus or a reproducer > that has a viable one. You can sometimes get them pretty cheap on > eBay and get lucky on the condition of the diamond. > > Regarding the "yucky" cabinet and mechanism, maybe they'll clean up as > nicely as the records. A little TLC can go a long way. Old English > Lemon Oil from the grocery store on the cabinet, or something like it, > can work wonders. Don't be so quick to dismiss the experience of > seeing what this noble relic can do until you've gotten a little > better acquainted with it. > > Andy > > > On Dec 24, 2009, at 3:43 PM, ger wrote: > > > LOL. I like the idea of possible hidden treasure. Can't wait for > > Saturday. > > Now, to get behind the records area...how does one do that? The top > > on that side does not come up. Only the grill area opens from the > > front. I stuck my fingers into the slots and they seemed empty. > > Fortunately nothing was living in there either. :) > > > > But, ya know, come to think of it, the weight seemed to be more on > > the empty record side. hmmmmm Could be somebody added metal as > > support I suppose. I really didn't get under and inspect every nook > > and cranny. It was so yucky. And...don't forget, I am just an old > > broad! ;) > > > > Yes. The thing cranks, turns on and off. But to get the horn to move > > (from side to side), it needs some help. It moved a few times, then > > got stubborn. > > > > This is getting more interesting. This group is great. > > > > Ger > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [email protected] > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison London Console > > > > > > Wonder why it is so heavy, any possibility that more records got > > pushed into the back of the record holding area, making the it more > > heavy then it should be. That happened with a Sonora I purchased > > about year and a half ago. The area to the rear of the record > > compartment was litterally filled with a stash of old records (a few > > real gems in there)as well as some original Sonora literature, > > including a beautifully illustrated Sonora Catalogue detailing the > > art models and bulge sided models, and many other details. You never > > know what hidden treaures might lie in the nooks and cranies of > > these old phonographs ! I am sure there are other tales others can > > tell as well. As far as the machine is concerned, if all she wants > > for it is 25bucks, you should grab it. The loose parts don't sound > > like much of a problem and if you have a working motor, turntable > > and crank, they are probably worth more then twice what you are > > paying for the entire machine and cabinet. You can always buy a r > > ep > > ro grill for that LC from one of the suppliers who advertises on > > line, and have a complete working machine to play those records on. > > > > Bruce > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ger" <[email protected]> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 4:51:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada > > Eastern > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison London Console > > > > Hi, > > > > How do I know what type of reproducer I have? > > And what is the deal with the "Edisonic"?? > > Here's a link to photos: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/gerdan/sets/72157622939629039/ > > > > The woman wants $25 for the rest of this machine...I don't know. It > > is really heavy and missing the grill on the right, loose parts; > > turntable goes around; she says it plays. > > > > Ger > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bruce Mercer > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 3:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison London Console > > > > > > Accordin to Frow they were introduced in 1922. They were sold along > > with the > > Edisonics and not further mentioned. Not to bore anybody again with > > this > > story but I bought one of the London Uprights that had never been > > uncrated. > > Fortunately, it had a nice new Edisonic reproducer just waiting for > > me. ;-) > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison London Console > > > > > >> I believe the paper label on the inside indicates the number of the > >> Edison > >> Cabinet Factory. The London Console came out in the early 1920's, > >> and is a > >> common low priced model from Edison's "London Series". > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
