Hello Terry,

I appreciate to no end the information you provided below, it helps me so much. 
 

Frow's book says the Triumph A appeared in the spring of 1901.  Do you have any 
idea the months when 29,000 to 30,000 would have been made?  

The last automatic has a hinge block and limit loop, 211558 is the highest 
serial number I have seen and for many years I have been trying to get an 
estimate of the month when the automatic last appeared so I can get an idea of 
the month in 1901 the automatic was replaced by the early B with the arm.  The 
early B did not have a notch for the centering pin until around serial number 
17,000 so I assume that 17,000 was Feb 1902.

I have seen standards, homes, and triumphs with the carriage with the clips 
with the early B with no notch.  

Thanks,

Steve

> The machine is TOO late for an Automatic.  Only the first month or so of 
> production had them and serial numbers run from about 29,000 to 30,000.  I've 
> only seen a handful of such machines.  The early cases had sharper corners 
> and 
> thinner walls.  This example with SN 46,315 appears to be in the correct late 
> case but has had an earlier carriage added at some point.
> 
> Terry P. Baer
> St. Louis
> Email:  [email protected]
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