Yes, it's Bagshaw. They've been making them since the early 1900s. But here's 
the catch --- you've got to buy A LOT, I mean A LOT -- and they won't be in 
little bags. So, it's a big expense and a lot of work. For most people it's too 
big a project, but go to


www.whbagshaw.com


Regards to all,


Tim Fabrizio
www.phonophan.com
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