Hi guys, I just purchased a Paul Whiteman Victor Picture Disc and I can't discover much information about it. Does anyone know approximately how many of these that were made. I believe that it was pressed in 1932, but that's about the extent of the info that I have been able to uncover. Anyone have any information regarding this particular disc? I have two others, also. One is "Music in the Air" and the other is one with a picture of Noel Coward. Any info would be appreciated.
> From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:30:15 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 99 > > > Hi John, > > I sent the seller a message and a link to the "Crapophone" website. He sent > me a message saying he added an amendment to the listing. I checked it and > here it is: > On Aug-17-10 at 07:36:36 PDT, seller added the following information: > > Note: I have received conflicting ideas regarding the authenticity of this > item. It is possible that some parts have been replaced, or that it is a > reproduction. I recommend all buyers to look closely at the pictures. > > He added this, in small print, below the very large description. That being > said, I found a bunch of the same thing with prices ranging from $100-250 for > "Authentic, Antique" Gramophone/Phonograph/Crapophones. This stuff is ruining > eBay... > > Several months ago, I watched two or three listings of needle tins that > included small collections of very rare tins from a seller in Hamburg, > Germany. Each one was snapped up at the last minute by the same bidder. I > finally decided to bid on a new listing of approx. 70 tins, some very rare > along with original advertising. The pictures were slightly hazy, but you > could recognize the rare tins when you enlarged the pics. The bids were quite > low and assuming the same bidder would snipe it at the end, I put in an extra > generous bid, but still within reason for what was represented. I won the > auction and the previous bidder on the other auctions, drove my bid to the > max. When I finally got them, they were cleverly crafted forgeries that I > paid 200 euros for. I wrote the seller and asked him what he thought he was > doing. He admitted that they were fakes, but said he disclosed it in small > print (in German). I went back and looked at all of his previous auctions and > no disclosure, b > ut on this particular one he added an additional word in front of authentic. > Thankfully, I paid with PayPal and after investigating, they paid me back. > Lesson learned... > > Curt > > > To: [email protected] > > From: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:32:29 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 99 > > > > The seller said they would amend the description. We'll see... > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Don Henry <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:27:23 > > To: <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 99 > > > > > > Hey! The Crapophone is up to $1.25! That's exactly how much merchandise I > > sold at the CAPS show last weekend! > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 99 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:00:02 -0700 > > > > > > Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to > > > [email protected] > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > [email protected] > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > [email protected] > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." > > > > > > > > > If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this > > > entire digest in your message. > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Ebay Fraud (john robles) > > > 2. Re: Ebay Fraud ([email protected]) > > > 3. Re: Ebay Fraud (Ron L'Herault) > > > 4. Re: Ebay Fraud (Ron L'Herault) > > > 5. Re: Ebay Fraud ([email protected]) > > > 6. Re: Ebay Fraud (harvey kravitz) > > > 7. Re: Ebay Fraud (Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD)) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:19:06 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: john robles <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > > > So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me > > > because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. > > > It burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some > > > education. Not accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I > > > couldn't help it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as > > > they say, they must have a bunch of crap. > > > Item number:? 250683868557 > > > John Robles > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:37:03 -0400 > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > > > > > Yeh John, but you could pick it up for a bargain price of $0.99 and > > > avoid the shipping cost as its right in your backyard isn't it? > > > Its a steal at that price! :) It would be worth paying the 99 cents > > > just to take it and smash it to bits. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: john robles <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 10:19 pm > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me > > > because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. > > > It burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some > > > education. Not accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I > > > couldn't help it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as > > > they say, they must have a bunch of crap. > > > Item number:? 250683868557 > > > John Robles > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:53:12 -0400 > > > From: "Ron L'Herault" <[email protected]> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > It probably is an all original machine-no new repro parts, just the ones > > > it > > > came with originally. The reproducer does look better than other > > > crapophone > > > units I've seen though. > > > > > > Ron L > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > > On > > > Behalf Of john robles > > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:19 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me > > > because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. It > > > burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some education. > > > Not > > > accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I couldn't help > > > it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as they say, they > > > must > > > have a bunch of crap. > > > Item number:? 250683868557 > > > John Robles > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:54:42 -0400 > > > From: "Ron L'Herault" <[email protected]> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > I'd buy the horn. Someone sent me a hornless crapophone that I am altering > > > to make it play better. Buy it. I'll give you $15 plus shipping for the > > > horn. > > > > > > Ron L > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > > On > > > Behalf Of [email protected] > > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:37 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > Yeh John, but you could pick it up for a bargain price of $0.99 and > > > avoid the shipping cost as its right in your backyard isn't it? > > > Its a steal at that price! :) It would be worth paying the 99 cents > > > just to take it and smash it to bits. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: john robles <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 10:19 pm > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me > > > because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. > > > It burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some > > > education. Not accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I > > > couldn't help it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as > > > they say, they must have a bunch of crap. > > > Item number:? 250683868557 > > > John Robles > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 5 > > > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:10:19 +0000 (UTC) > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > Message-ID: > > > <1196961414.56516.1282050619546.javamail.r...@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > > Yes great Idea, buy it, take off the horn and sell it to Ron, and then > > > smash that craponola to bits with a sledge hammer!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ron L'Herault" <[email protected]> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:54:42 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > I'd buy the horn. Someone sent me a hornless crapophone that I am > > > altering > > > to make it play better. Buy it. I'll give you $15 plus shipping for the > > > horn. > > > > > > Ron L > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > > On > > > Behalf Of [email protected] > > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:37 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > Yeh John, but you could pick it up for a bargain price of $0.99 and > > > avoid the shipping cost as its right in your backyard isn't it? > > > Its a steal at that price! :) It would be worth paying the 99 cents > > > just to take it and smash it to bits. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: john robles <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 10:19 pm > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me > > > because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. > > > It burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some > > > education. Not accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I > > > couldn't help it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as > > > they say, they must have a bunch of crap. > > > Item number: 250683868557 > > > John Robles > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 6 > > > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:15:43 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: harvey kravitz <[email protected]> > > > To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > > I'd buy the machine for the reproducer. It is an original HMV No. 5 or > > > 5A. It's > > > hard to tell by the photos. > > > Harvey Kravitz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 6:10:19 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > Yes great Idea, buy it, take off the horn and sell it to Ron, and then > > > smash > > > that craponola to bits with a sledge hammer!! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ron L'Herault" <[email protected]> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:54:42 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > I'd buy the horn. Someone sent me a hornless crapophone that I am > > > altering > > > to make it play better. Buy it. I'll give you $15 plus shipping for the > > > horn. > > > > > > Ron L > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > > On > > > Behalf Of [email protected] > > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:37 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > Yeh John, but you could pick it up for a bargain price of $0.99 and > > > avoid the shipping cost as its right in your backyard isn't it? > > > Its a steal at that price! :) It would be worth paying the 99 cents > > > just to take it and smash it to bits. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: john robles <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 10:19 pm > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me > > > because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. > > > It burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some > > > education. Not accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I > > > couldn't help it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as > > > they say, they must have a bunch of crap. > > > Item number: 250683868557 > > > John Robles > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 7 > > > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:18:46 -0700 > > > From: "Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD)" <[email protected]> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > Message-ID: > > > <d1bc03a700c3c842b6cdce7d0953d5cc01939...@dshsmxoly1504o.dshs.wa.lcl> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > > Hey Harvey! Good to see you guys at the radio swap meet on Sunday! > > > > > > ~Ron > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > > On Behalf Of harvey kravitz > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:16 AM > > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > I'd buy the machine for the reproducer. It is an original HMV No. 5 or > > > 5A. It's > > > hard to tell by the photos. > > > Harvey Kravitz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 6:10:19 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > Yes great Idea, buy it, take off the horn and sell it to Ron, and then > > > smash > > > that craponola to bits with a sledge hammer!! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ron L'Herault" <[email protected]> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:54:42 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > I'd buy the horn. Someone sent me a hornless crapophone that I am > > > altering > > > to make it play better. Buy it. I'll give you $15 plus shipping for the > > > horn. > > > > > > Ron L > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > > On > > > Behalf Of [email protected] > > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:37 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > Yeh John, but you could pick it up for a bargain price of $0.99 and > > > avoid the shipping cost as its right in your backyard isn't it? > > > Its a steal at that price! :) It would be worth paying the 99 cents > > > just to take it and smash it to bits. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: john robles <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 10:19 pm > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud > > > > > > So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me > > > because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. > > > It burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some > > > education. Not accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I > > > couldn't help it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as > > > they say, they must have a bunch of crap. > > > Item number: 250683868557 > > > John Robles > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
