Jeff: If it makes you feel any better, you wouldn't have gotten it for $5. He ended the auction the same day it was listed so he found out right away what he had... Besides, I already had it bookmarked! Don > From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 127 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:00:01 -0700 > > Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to > phono-l@oldcrank.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." > > > If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire > digest in your message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: What is this reproducer? (Jeffry Young, D.O.) > 2. Re: What is this reproducer? (Rich) > 3. chat (Ron L'Herault) > 4. What is this reproducer? (Patrick Gunn) > 5. Re: What is this reproducer? (john robles) > 6. Re: What is this reproducer? (Jan and Harold) > 7. Contact Information needed (jim...@earthlink.net) > 8. Re: Contact Information needed (Andrew Baron) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:13:44 -0500 > From: "Jeffry Young, D.O." <jeff...@prevea.com> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > Message-ID: > <6c7ea97ca5292848b80f204f38a737520eda0...@mercury.prevea.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > The Zonophone closed face reproducer has been relisted. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Early-Zonophone-reproducer-disc-phonograph-/38026743 > 6038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5889b49806 > > He now knows what he has. > > These are appropriate for any and all early Zonophones, the A,B,C, or D. > There was both a 3 screw version without a needle guard, and the 4 screw > version, most often seen with the needle guard, but sometimes not. These > reproducers are exceedingly rare. I have seen only one other on ebay in > perhaps 5 years! There were some reproduction 3 screw reproducers > produced in the '70's. I have one of these. > > This will bring a king's ransom. It will be fun to watch. (I wish I had > seen it before it closed when he did not know what it was! Could have > had the blasted thing for $5!) > > Jeff > Wisconsin > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] > On Behalf Of Don Henry > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:39 PM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 124 > > > This is a Zonophone Model A reproducer for the glass sided front mount > model - precursor to the Concert V.. No doubt the listing was ended when > he discovered what he had! > > Don > > > From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 124 > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:00:02 -0700 > > > > Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to > > phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." > > > > > > If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this > entire digest in your message. > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. What is this reproducer? (Steven Medved) > > 2. Re: What is this reproducer? (john9...@pacbell.net) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:09:49 +0000 > > From: Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> > > To: phonolist <phonol...@yahoogroups.com>, Phono-l > > <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > Subject: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > > Message-ID: <col118-w1431da3934f191c9e71ba0f6...@phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/antique-phonograph-reproducer-78-rpm-records-/290473 > 079601 > > > > Can anyone tell me what this is? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:23:16 +0000 > > From: john9...@pacbell.net > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > > Message-ID: > > > <1177776370-1283905395-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-90806018 > 9...@bda488.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > That almost looks like a Clark-Johnson reproducer! > > John Robles > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Steven Medved > > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > To: phonolist > > To: Phono-l > > ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > > Sent: Sep 7, 2010 5:09 PM > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/antique-phonograph-reproducer-78-rpm-records-/290473 > 079601 > > > > Can anyone tell me what this is? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > End of Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 124 > > *************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:22:36 -0500 > From: Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > Message-ID: <4c8be50c.7070...@octoxol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Wonder if he will get enough for it that he can buy a decent camera and > some photography lessons. Don't these dolts ever look at their own > auctions before they post them? > > Jeffry Young, D.O. wrote: > > > > The Zonophone closed face reproducer has been relisted. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Early-Zonophone-reproducer-disc-phonograph-/38026743 > > 6038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5889b49806 > > > > He now knows what he has. > > > > These are appropriate for any and all early Zonophones, the A,B,C, or D. > > There was both a 3 screw version without a needle guard, and the 4 screw > > version, most often seen with the needle guard, but sometimes not. These > > reproducers are exceedingly rare. I have seen only one other on ebay in > > perhaps 5 years! There were some reproduction 3 screw reproducers > > produced in the '70's. I have one of these. > > > > This will bring a king's ransom. It will be fun to watch. (I wish I had > > seen it before it closed when he did not know what it was! Could have > > had the blasted thing for $5!) > > > > Jeff > > Wisconsin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] > > On Behalf Of Don Henry > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:39 PM > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 124 > > > > > > This is a Zonophone Model A reproducer for the glass sided front mount > > model - precursor to the Concert V.. No doubt the listing was ended when > > he discovered what he had! > > > > Don > > > >> From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > >> Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 124 > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:00:02 -0700 > >> > >> Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to > >> phono-l@oldcrank.org > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> phono-l-ow...@oldcrank.org > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." > >> > >> > >> If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this > > entire digest in your message. > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. What is this reproducer? (Steven Medved) > >> 2. Re: What is this reproducer? (john9...@pacbell.net) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:09:49 +0000 > >> From: Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> > >> To: phonolist <phonol...@yahoogroups.com>, Phono-l > >> <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > >> Subject: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > >> Message-ID: <col118-w1431da3934f191c9e71ba0f6...@phx.gbl> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> > >> > >> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/antique-phonograph-reproducer-78-rpm-records-/290473 > > 079601 > >> > >> Can anyone tell me what this is? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:23:16 +0000 > >> From: john9...@pacbell.net > >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > >> Message-ID: > >> > > <1177776370-1283905395-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-90806018 > > 9...@bda488.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> > >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain > >> > >> That almost looks like a Clark-Johnson reproducer! > >> John Robles > >> ------Original Message------ > >> From: Steven Medved > >> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > >> To: phonolist > >> To: Phono-l > >> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List > >> Subject: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > >> Sent: Sep 7, 2010 5:09 PM > >> > >> > >> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/antique-phonograph-reproducer-78-rpm-records-/290473 > > 079601 > >> > >> Can anyone tell me what this is? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >> > >> > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >> > >> End of Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 124 > >> *************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:19:40 -0400 > From: "Ron L'Herault" <lhera...@bu.edu> > To: <phonol...@yahoogroups.com>, "'Antique Phonograph List'" > <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Subject: [Phono-L] chat > Message-ID: <003c01cb5218$92e6e7d0$b8b4b7...@edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > It's quiet on the chat tonight. > > Ron > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:24:59 -0700 (PDT) > From: Patrick Gunn <pgvancou...@yahoo.com> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Subject: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > Message-ID: <125236.89758...@web52505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > After pulling the original auction, the seller then claimed that it was "his > brother's", and mistakenly was listed, and that the "brother" didn't want to > sell it.... uh huh... > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 1:22:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > > Wonder if he will get enough for it that he can buy a decent camera and some > photography lessons. Don't these dolts ever look at their own auctions before > they post them? > > Jeffry Young, D.O. wrote: > > The Zonophone closed face reproducer has been relisted. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Early-Zonophone-reproducer-disc-phonograph-/38026743 > > 6038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5889b49806 > > > > He now knows what he has. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:52:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: john robles <john9...@pacbell.net> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > Message-ID: <805049.28925...@web80701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > There's another Zono reproducer on there now, already up to something like > $1200.00. > John Robles > > --- On Sat, 9/11/10, Patrick Gunn <pgvancou...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: Patrick Gunn <pgvancou...@yahoo.com> > Subject: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 6:24 PM > > After pulling the original auction, the seller then claimed that it was "his > brother's", and mistakenly was listed, and that the "brother" didn't want to > sell it.... uh huh... > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 1:22:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > > Wonder if he will get enough for it that he can buy a decent camera and some > photography lessons.? Don't these dolts ever look at their own auctions > before > they post them? > > Jeffry Young, D.O. wrote: > >? The Zonophone closed face reproducer has been relisted. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Early-Zonophone-reproducer-disc-phonograph-/38026743 > > 6038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5889b49806 > > > > He now knows what he has. > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:12:33 -0700 > From: Jan and Harold <dynawh...@shaw.ca> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > Message-ID: <5d7ce2f3-640f-472e-8dfb-5be706bd4...@shaw.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > That's a new excuse. I guess his "brother" changed his mind. > > On 2010-09-11, at 6:24 PM, Patrick Gunn wrote: > > > After pulling the original auction, the seller then claimed that it was > > "his > > brother's", and mistakenly was listed, and that the "brother" didn't want > > to > > sell it.... uh huh... > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com> > > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 1:22:36 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer? > > > > Wonder if he will get enough for it that he can buy a decent camera and > > some > > photography lessons. Don't these dolts ever look at their own auctions > > before > > they post them? > > > > Jeffry Young, D.O. wrote: > >> The Zonophone closed face reproducer has been relisted. > >> > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Early-Zonophone-reproducer-disc-phonograph-/38026743 > >> 6038?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5889b49806 > >> > >> He now knows what he has. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > Mac User > dynawh...@shaw.ca > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:14:23 -0500 > From: "jim...@earthlink.net" <jim...@earthlink.net> > To: Phono-L@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Contact Information needed > Message-ID: <380-220109012181423...@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > I need Ray Wile's "E-mail" address. I've been re-reading his articles on the > phonograph's earliest years & notice that he, like virtually all writers on > the subject, is ignorant of > or has chosen to ignore Charles Sumner Tainter's 1880 Home Notes on deposit > at the Smithsonian Institution which were the subject of an article a few > years ago in "For the Record," the journal of the City of London Phonograph > and Gramophone Society Ltd. If Tainter's 1880 Home Notes are actually what > they claim to be then Tainter is the inventor > of lateral-cut wax disc recording in 1880! I want to submit scans of the > relevant pages of 1880 Home Notes & Tainter's drawings for Mr. Wile's > thoughts since he is probably the > leading expert on this earliest period of sound recording. (I sent scans of > relevant pages from the "For the Record" article to Mr. Fabrizio,Mr. Paul & > Mr. Sutton some months ago but have not received any comments from them other > than Mr. Paul saying he'd need to know when the were deposited at the > Smithsonian. ) If Tainters 1880 Home Notes are authentic, then Tainter should > be given credit for the origination of lateral-cut wax disc recording in > 1880. (This may parallel a situation where for years the true inventor of > electronic television, Philo Farnsworth, was denied credit which was then > attributed to RCA corporate scientists.) If the 1880 Home Notes were actually > written years later & pre-dated (something the drawings which seem to show an > elaborate constant surface speed disc device nothing like later disc > equipment (until the British constant surface speed gramophone of the 1920s) > then they want exposure as a hoax. Either way, it ought to be of much intere > st to us antique phonograph buffs & Mr. Wile is probably best equipped > because of his past research to explore this question. > > Jim Cartwright > Immortal Performances, Inc. > > > > jim...@earthlink.net > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:22:39 -0600 > From: Andrew Baron <a...@popyrus.com> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Contact Information needed > Message-ID: <ed3fa894-c7c7-468b-80a8-4db74385d...@popyrus.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > This is a fascinating story in its own right. If not too much > trouble, could you email me the relevant pages that you mention here? > I'd love to see them. > > Andy Baron > Santa Fe > PS: I'm also well aware of Farnsworth and his story, and have always > been as much of a casual historian as I am a restorer of early > technologies. > > On Sep 12, 2010, at 12:14 PM, jim...@earthlink.net wrote: > > > I need Ray Wile's "E-mail" address. I've been re-reading his > > articles on the phonograph's earliest years & notice that he, like > > virtually all writers on the subject, is ignorant of > > or has chosen to ignore Charles Sumner Tainter's 1880 Home Notes on > > deposit at the Smithsonian Institution which were the subject of an > > article a few years ago in "For the Record," the journal of the > > City of London Phonograph and Gramophone Society Ltd. If > > Tainter's 1880 Home Notes are actually what they claim to be then > > Tainter is the inventor > > of lateral-cut wax disc recording in 1880! I want to submit scans > > of the relevant pages of 1880 Home Notes & Tainter's drawings for > > Mr. Wile's thoughts since he is probably the > > leading expert on this earliest period of sound recording. (I sent > > scans of relevant pages from the "For the Record" article to Mr. > > Fabrizio,Mr. Paul & Mr. Sutton some months ago but have not received > > any comments from them other than Mr. Paul saying he'd need to know > > when the were deposited at the Smithsonian. ) If Tainters 1880 > > Home Notes are authentic, then Tainter should be given credit for > > the origination of lateral-cut wax disc recording in 1880. (This > > may parallel a situation where for years the true inventor of > > electronic television, Philo Farnsworth, was denied credit which was > > then attributed to RCA corporate scientists.) If the 1880 Home > > Notes were actually written years later & pre-dated (something the > > drawings which seem to show an elaborate constant surface speed disc > > device nothing like later disc equipment (until the British constant > > surface speed gramophone of the 1920s) then they want exposure as a > > hoax. Either way, it ought to be of much intere > > st to us antique phonograph buffs & Mr. Wile is probably best > > equipped because of his past research to explore this question. > > > > Jim Cartwright > > Immortal Performances, Inc. > > > > > > > > jim...@earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > End of Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 127 > *************************************** _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
