John Maeder <[email protected]> wrote:

>Ron,
>Visit a commercial janitorial supply house and pick up a jug of enzyme 
>carpet/upholstery deodorizer.  It will eat the proteins that are causing the 
>mildew smell, but be careful not to get it on areas that have been hide-glued 
>or else you may end up regluing them.
>
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:43:16 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Original or restored?
>> 
>> 
>> Ron said it very well.  I would favor a mint machine over a restored one but 
>> I would not discriminate over a restored machine as that is the only way 
>> most people can own a mint looking machine.  I would also love to have a 
>> 1795 silver dollar in uncirculated condition, but I had to settle for one 
>> with a hole that was filled in that was in average condition.  
>>  
>> I recently got a gold Exhibition in the deluxe hinged box, the mildew smell 
>> was horrible.  I sprayed the inside with Lysol and I will have to treat it 
>> once more to get rid of the smell.  Some people would likely be upset I got 
>> rid of the original mildew, but if you cannot enjoy what you have why 
>> collect?  I cringe when someone cleans $20,000 of the value of an Idelia by 
>> polishing the copper oxidation off, but some people cringe when you restore 
>> an all brass horn to original look.  
>>  
>> Most people would prefer mint machines, but the reality is if you want to 
>> enjoy a machine that looks perfect it will most likely be restored.  The 
>> only two machines that I have that are excellent is my VV-IV and my VV-VI 
>> that came in an aftermarked console which protected it.  
>>  
>> My Triumph E is one I had restored.  Someone varnished over the whole thing 
>> and ruined the case, made the pin striping run, and the machine was in 
>> excellent shape until someone ruined it.
>>  
>> I had the bedplate refinished, now it looks better than new.  I enjoy the 
>> machine because it looks so nice, when I want to play records I go to my 
>> crappy looking A in a B case Triumph.  I have seen people with machines that 
>> look new, unfortunately there are not enought to go around.
>>  
>> One year a radio collector brought a Triumph A with a wooden horn and an 
>> iron and brass O to show it to people.  The finish was so alligatored it 
>> acutally felt like the reptile when you touched it.  The O was rusty and 
>> when I told the guy it would restore nicely he was horrified and told me he 
>> did not buy it to listen to or restore, he liked to keep things just as he 
>> found them.  
>>  
>> Steve
>>  
>> > I agree with Steve.  It depends on condition and the machine itself. It 
>> > can be subjective and dependent on the collector or individual as well.  
>> > Do you want a common but pristine original Vic -IV, for example, or would 
>> > you rather have a refurbished and refinished Edison Opera brought back to 
>> > showroom beauty?  Also rarity might be a consideration.  Would someone 
>> > wait for a near original Edison Idealia or take one that was redone?  It 
>> > depends...cost, rarity, the collector themselves are only a few of the 
>> > considerations.  
>> > I think most of us would take the rarest machine in the most original 
>> > condition at the lowest cost (speaking in general terms).  Cost, 
>> > especially in todays economy may be a key determiner in the utlimate 
>> > decision made.
>> >  
>> > Ron 
>> > 
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