Hi Bill ~
Sometimes, small felt insulating strips on the brackets under the
motor board will adhere to the motor board, "cementing" it in place.
Swelling of the motor board is possible, but seems unlikely to me, as
the total area isn't large and they typically gave it plenty of room.
Now the back panel is another story; on the XVII, this was a fairly
close fit and a little swelling would lock it in place.
If you can insert a business card or credit card around at least two
sides of the motor board, it probably isn't stuck from swelling.
If you have or if you've sourced a crank that fits, you can remove the
crank escutcheon from the side of the cabinet to give it some "wiggle
room", thread the crank in fully and GENTLY pull, push and lift or
leverage the top works with the crank. The pulling and pushing are
relatively safe actions, but leverage from other angles risks bending
the crank or damaging the crank receptacle. That being said, the
Victor cranks are quite stout, and the motor parts are fairly strong.
You have to be able to "feel" through the end of the crank to avoid
damage, especially when using the crank to do other than pulling or
pushing.
Another approach would be to thread a slightly oversized wood screw
into the hole where the motor board lift knob normally goes. A large
flat washer under the head of the screw can be used as a grip. I
assume the original machine screw that comes up from below isn't in
the hole. Note however that this risks possible damage to the motor
board, and shouldn't be tried if the crank method gives results.
Keep us posted,
Andy Baron
Santa Fe
On Jan 10, 2011, at 9:52 PM, William Zucca wrote:
John: Yes, everything have been removed from the motor board and
frame.
Only the motor screws remain. I even tried tapping with rubber
mallet to see
if there would be any movement. But there is none.
Thanks for the picture.
GrnMountain Bill
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:35 PM, john robles <[email protected]>
wrote:
Did you remove the turntable and reposition the automatic stop
yoke? This
is often the culprit, because the two arms of the stop yoke overlap
form the
motorboard to the motorboard frame. Check this link to a photo of
what I
mean. The yoke is circled in white.
http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/
John Robles
--- On Mon, 1/10/11, William Zucca <[email protected]> wrote:
From: William Zucca <[email protected]>
Subject: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 8:04 PM
Dear Phono-Lers:
I recently acquired a Victrola VV-XVII. It is pretty nice machine
but is
missing the crank, needle cup, motor board knob, and one large
storage door
knob.................
ANYWAY...............
After removing the screws that hold down the motor board (two in
the front
and perhaps a third in the rear center just in from the tonearm
bracket), I
have been unable to get the board to either swivel on a pivot or
come up
out
of the top of the machine! What am I doing wrong? There is no
movement of
the motor board in any direction. It is stuck tight. Any
suggestions
about
how to remove it?
On the back of the machine there is a panel that seems to be held
in with
two brass screws on its bottom edge and also has two "acorn" wooden
plugs
at
the top. I removed all of these and this panel too is stuck fast!
What is
going on?
Regards,
GrnMountain Bill
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