Dear Bruce,

It took me a while to reply to your query.   I have put your "E-mail"
address into my computer's "Address Book" so there ought to be no further
difficulty in your messages reaching me.    If so, let me know.

Thanks & All good wishes...

Very truly yours,

Jim Cartwright
IMMORTAL PERFORMANCES, INC
"Austin’s Eclectic Used Record Store Since 1971"
1404 West 30th Street    Austin, Texas 78703-1402 USA
(512) 478-9954    E-mail: jim...@earthlink.net


> [Original Message]
> From: Bruce Mercer <maxbu...@wowway.com>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Date: 19-Mar-2011 11:37:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Jim's C-2s / Spamblocker
>
> Jim, sorry, I cannot get past your spam blocker.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruce Mercer" <maxbu...@wowway.com>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols
>
>
> > Jim,
> > it doesn't sound like the pickup is the issue, although George Epple is 
> > the person to contact regarding these early types of "horseshoe
pickups". 
> > It's possible that you have speaker issues that are fixable. The
Peerless 
> > used a single wound voice coil as opposed to other speaker designs that 
> > used thousands of turns of #20 gauge copper wire in the voice coil. The 
> > speakers must have absolutely clean and tightened contacts or the work 
> > poorly. I rebuilt my R-1, R-2, C-1, and C-2 myself except for the
pickup. 
> > These were the four radios or combinations that came out in 1928. Later 
> > models used a Magnovox speaker of more conventional design (green 
> > chassis). I like the Peerless speaker because of the very high quality
and 
> > the unique but can be troublesome design. The overall chassis builds 
> > (copper color) are extremely high quality with the Jr chassis in all
but 
> > the C-1 which has the Sr chassis. I'm curious to know which model radio 
> > you are using to play the pickup through. Since it is an R-1 or R-2 and 
> > has the Peerless speaker, I would unplug the radio speaker and plug
into 
> > the C-2 speaker. Subbing out the speakers will tell you right away if
you 
> > are having speaker problems. If not, the problem lies in the chassis 
> > itself.  I'm going to contact you off list to find out more about why
or 
> > how they do not play well.
> >  Once everything IS up to par the set can be fine tuned to get rid of 
> > other sound issues by adding proper damping to the amp, speaker, arm,
and 
> > motorboard. Also, there is a "sweet spot" in positioning the speaker
front 
> > to back to eliminate any boom. Properly restored, those C-2s should
sound 
> > awesome. I use the C-2 as much as I do the C-1 because it's easier to
load 
> > unless I want the added power of the super amp and two speakers in the 
> > C-1.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > (btw) the pickup should track at five ounces.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <jim...@earthlink.net>
> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 2:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols
> >
> >
> >> Right now my C-2 plays through an Edison radio using the same chassis &
> >> loudspeaker as the C-2 & yes I had the restorer make the filter 
> >> switchable
> >> & do not use it on Diamond Discs.    Both of my C-2s have been
"restored"
> >> but do not play well.   Can you all recommend someone who really knows 
> >> how
> >> to work on them?   (I have a 3rd, but the restorer kept its chassis
which
> >> was incomplete & I've been uable to get him to return it.)    Through
the
> >> Edison Radio using the C-2 turntable & pickup, Diamond Discs sound
great!
> >>
> >> Jim Cartwright
> >> IMMORTAL PERFORMANCES, INC
> >> "Austin's Eclectic Used Record Store Since 1971"
> >> 1404 West 30th Street    Austin, Texas 78703-1402 USA
> >> (512) 478-9954    E-mail: jim...@earthlink.net
> >>
> >>
> >>> [Original Message]
> >>> From: Bruce Mercer <maxbu...@wowway.com>
> >>> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> >>> Date: 17-Mar-2011 2:05:11 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for that information and the matrix number. Both my C-1 and C-2
> >> have
> >>> the same speed control knobs. It should be an easy thing to dial back 
> >>> the
> >>> speed indicator on the marked backplate for those late DD and Needle 
> >>> Cuts
> >> to
> >>> obtain an accurate 78rpm. I notice in the factory manual that they
> >>> recommended setting it at a comprimise of 79 rpm if primarily playing 
> >>> DD.
> >> I
> >>> doubt the average consumer of the day couldn't tell the difference one
> >> way
> >>> or the other.
> >>>  While on the subject of these machines, I'd like to know if anyone
else
> >>> that has a C-1 or
> >>> C-2 switches OUT the filter. It vastly overfilters the DD on either
> >> machine.
> >>> I rarely switch it IN.
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Philip Carli" <philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu>
> >>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:38 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Possibly for new owners of the C-1 and C-2 Edison radio/phonographs,
> >> which
> >>> were capable of playing both lateral and vertical records by just
> >> flipping
> >>> the stylus?  -- one less step for new Edison owners to consider? --
> >>>
> >>> And how late are we talking on Diamond Discs being at 78?  The Goldman
> >> Band
> >>> discs in the 52630s play at pitch at 80?  I have 52650,a Frankie
Marvin
> >>> disc,  but I haven't played it in a long time -- might check it --
> >>>
> >>> Philip
> >>> ________________________________________
> >>> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
> >> Behalf
> >>> Of Bill Taney [b...@taney.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:33 AM
> >>> To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; Phono-l
> >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols
> >>>
> >>> Why did they record the final diamond disc's at 78RPM? Seems rather
odd
> >>> decision since existing owners would have to adjust the speed of their
> >>> machines for these records then adjust back for any of the previous
15 
> >>> yr
> >> +
> >>> worth of records.
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From:  Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com>
> >>> Reply-To:  <phonol...@yahoogroups.com>
> >>> Date:  Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:22:28 -0400
> >>> To:  Phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org>, phonolist 
> >>> <phonol...@yahoogroups.com>
> >>> Subject:  [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello lucky owners,
> >>>
> >>> How do these sound?  Has anyone heard them played with the Diamond D?
I
> >>> recently rebuilt one with a new stylus, the diaphragm was still good.
> >> Even
> >>> without the extra weight it sounds better so I assume the final
Diamond 
> >>> C
> >>> with the weight from the same casting as the Diamond D also sounds 
> >>> better.
> >>>
> >>> I played an acoustic dub of an electrically recorded DD and there is a
> >>> difference.
> >>>
> >>> Ron, the final DD records were recorded at 78 rpm so what was done
when
> >> they
> >>> were dubbed to BA's?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
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