What model Hexaphone do you have for sale? Thanks.




-----Original Message-----
From: ger55 <ge...@comcast.net>
To: phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Cc: ger55 <ge...@comcast.net>
Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:51 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees



Thanks to all who gave info about auction fees. I asked for their take to be 
20% 
nd to put a reserve on the Hexaphone and Zonophone (worth thousands each). THe 
uctioneer, WOODBURY Auctions then declined...tells ya somethin! I realized 
ater, that a "ringer" could come in and buy my multi-thousand machines for a 
ew hundred and make off like a bandit if I didn't have a reserve! 
At first they asked for 35% + shipping costs, then went down to 25% with no 
harge for shipping. BUT, the mention of reserve suddenly turned them off. 

Just something to think about...RESERVES are very very important. They may be a 
ut-off to some, but to the seller are critical and I'm very grateful for the 
eplies I got here. 
Thanks folks, many thanks!!! 
Ger 

If anyone hears of an auction or buyer willing to take on my collection fairly, 
lease let me know...still would like to clear it out (northwest CT)...for real 
his time. ;) 
Besides the Hex and Zono, there are 4 Edisons, a Vic, a Herbert (reproducer 
area 
ncorrectly fixed), over a dozen horns including one extra large round brass, a 
unch of parts, and over 500 records, about half of which look like decent blue 
mberols (a couple of other odd ones too & some good wax). Everything is 
atalogued, including a few dozen fat flat records and a Diamond Disc head with 
iamond. I've had offers for the 2 main machines, but don't want to be 
herry-picked. :) 

PS: For any one who finds some of the discussion here unrelated to their 
mmediate situation, I suggest that rather than drop out totally, get put on 
aily digest...it works well for me, and I actually enjoy it. Thanks for that 
oo. 

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Today's Topics: 
   1. VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 
  2. Re: VTLA wheel casters (David Dazer) 
  3. Re: auction fees (Richard Mazur) 
  4. Re: Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath (b...@taney.com) 
  5. Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was 
     Dearborn... (clockworkh...@aol.com) 
  6. My Dearborn trip (Ken and Brenda Brekke) 
  7. Edison (Michael Tucker) 
  8. Re: Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... was 
     Dearborn... (Steven Medved) 
  9. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 
 10. Re: VTLA wheel casters (Ron L'Herault) 
 11. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M,        Home... 
     (clockworkh...@aol.com) 
 12. Re: VTLA wheel casters (jkship) 
 13. Re: Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M,        Home... 
     (john robles) 

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Message: 1 
ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:56:24 -0600 
rom: "jkship" <jks...@bresnan.net> 
o: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ubject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 
essage-ID: <16F2FFE8882542FE91FEE85D1552AC9A@SHIPLEYSDELL> 
ontent-Type: text/plain;        charset="iso-8859-1" 
I am trying to locate a set of four "ball bearing type wheel casters" for an 
arly VTLA.  The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end 
f the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of one of the 
ups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the cup has a 
istinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three parts I have 
re missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron to no avail... 
hanks 
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Message: 2 
ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) 
rom: David Dazer <dda...@sbcglobal.net> 
o: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 
essage-ID: 
       <1309810513.71949.yahoomailclas...@web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 
ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 
Were they only used on the VTLA?? I just parted out a VV-XIV and saved those 
asters and related parts. In fact, they are still attached to the legs. 
et me know if that would be of any use to you. 
ave 
--- On Mon, 7/4/11, jkship <jks...@bresnan.net> wrote: 
From: jkship <jks...@bresnan.net> 
ubject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 
o: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
ate: Monday, July 4, 2011, 3:56 PM 
I am trying to locate a set of four "ball bearing type wheel casters" for an 
arly VTLA.? The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small end 
f the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of one of the 
ups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the cup has a 
istinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three parts I have 
re missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron to no avail... 
hanks 
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Message: 3 
ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:40:16 -0400 (EDT) 
rom: Richard Mazur <phonofo...@aol.com> 
o: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees 
essage-ID: <8ce08aa190a57a0-1a6c-50...@webmail-d170.sysops.aol.com> 
ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 
Good point Al about ebay. Auction houses could make up to 45% on items ( 30% 
lus 15%)  that make under $1000 There was an auction house near while I live 
now defunct) where they would keep 50% commission on items you consign that 
otal under $100. On top of the 50% the auction house also charged a 10% buyers 
remium. So the auction house makes more more on the item than the consignor 
oes. Even though ebay has increased its fees they are still a viable alernative 
when selling items especially items that a easy to ship. 


----Original Message----- 
rom: Albert Menashe <almena...@gmail.com> 
o: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ent: Mon, Jul 4, 2011 3:05 pm 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] auction fees 

he auctions that I attend locally, charge the buyer 15%, the sales 
mmission are negotiable based on the type merchandise, and the potential 
ounts realized.  On smaller items (-1000) it is usually 30%.  But it is 
tally negotiable.  A whole collection valued at 500k may go for as little 
 10%  We know what the exhorbitant ebay fees are, but at least the buyer 
esnt have to pay a commission. 
n Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Richard Mazur <phonofo...@aol.com> wrote: 
 
Hi Ger: 
 Most auctions take about a 25 - 30% commission rate; however it also 
depends on how many phonongraphs you are planning to sell at the auction 
house. If you decide to sell just 1 or 10 the higher the commission rate. If 
you sell your whole collection like 50 or more then the commisson rate 
should be lower. I heard with some lucrative estates the rate may be as low 
as 20% or possibly lower. 
 Rick 



-----Original Message----- 
From: ger55 <ge...@comcast.net> 
To: phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
Cc: ger55 <ge...@comcast.net> 
Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:52 pm 
Subject: [Phono-L] auction fees 

 What is considered fair price for an auction house to take for auctioning 
honographs and related? 
've asked this question twice but it never comes up on the daily digest. 
 Thanks 
Ger 
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ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:56:12 -0400 
rom: "b...@taney.com" <b...@taney.com> 
o: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
c: Phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath 
essage-ID: <98c71778-357d-42ae-b143-85b9d9cdf...@taney.com> 
ontent-Type: text/plain;        charset=us-ascii 
That's the history of innovation, no one EVER invents something in a vacuum, it 
s all based on someone else's work.  Altair and many others tried to come up 
ith computers that were functional personal computers, the Apple ][ was the 
irst practical home computer system, thus Altair is forgotten and Apple is the 
argest technology company in the world. Same as the OTTO-cycle engine, many 
ther engines were attempted but It was the first practical gas engine and thus 
ikolas Otto gets the credit because his system worked. 
ill 
-- 
ill Taney 
ent From My iPad 

n Jul 4, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> wrote: 
> 
 However, his filament had low resistance, thus needing heavy copper wires to 
upply it. Jim, You are an electrical engineer, how much copper would have been 
ecessary to provide a working low resistance lighting system for all of 
ngland?  My understanding is that to employ a low resistance series method of 
lectrical distribution would have used a tremendous amount of copper therefore 
he Swan system could not have been used.  If a system cannot be used even if it 
orks in a laboratory what good is it except for a curiosity? Steve 
> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:29:26 -0400 
> From: bi...@ftldesign.com 
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Dearborn trip--Edison's last breath 
> 
> On 7/3/2011 8:38 PM, Jim Nichol wrote: 
>> I strongly disagree. Yes, Google will tell you that many others worked on 
he light bulb. But those stories all conclude that none of them were practical. 
dison's contribution was not only that he invented the power plant, but more 
mportantly, he invented the first practical incandescent bulb. 
> 
> The British would disagree: 
> 
> "In 1850 Swan began working on a light bulb using carbonized paper 
> filaments in an evacuated glass bulb. By 1860 he was able to demonstrate 
> a working device, and obtained a British patent covering a partial 
> vacuum, carbon filament incandescent lamp. However, the lack of a good 
> vacuum and an adequate electric source resulted in an inefficient bulb 
> with a short lifetime. 
> 
> "Fifteen years later, in 1875, Swan returned to consider the problem of 
> the light bulb with the aid of a better vacuum and a carbonized thread 
> as a filament. The most significant feature of Swan's improved lamp was 
> that there was little residual oxygen in the vacuum tube to ignite the 
> filament, thus allowing the filament to glow almost white-hot without 
> catching fire. However, his filament had low resistance, thus needing 
> heavy copper wires to supply it.[7] 
> 
> "Swan received a British patent for his device in 1878, about a year 
> before Thomas Edison. 
> 
> "In America, Edison had been working on copies of the original light 
> bulb patented by Swan, trying to make them more efficient. Though Swan 
> had beaten him to this goal, Edison obtained patents in America for a 
> fairly direct copy of the Swan light, and started an advertising 
> campaign which claimed that he was the real inventor. Swan, who was less 
> interested in making money from the invention, agreed that Edison could 
> sell the lights in America while he retained the rights in Britain." 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Swan 
> 
> -- 
> Bill Burns 
> Long Island   NY   USA 
> http://ftldesign.com 
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ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:31:45 -0400 (EDT) 
rom: clockworkh...@aol.com 
o: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
ubject: [Phono-L] Recreating Edison's Inventions... very 
       educational... was        Dearborn... 
essage-ID: <125f1.66fbfaf6.3b439...@aol.com> 
ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" 
>From tinfoil phonographs to light bulbs, Edison made things that were 
ractical and worked. 
 
f one does not realize the difficulty of Edison's inventions then one has 
ot attempted to duplicate them.  Has anyone ever played with a reproduction 
ell telephone?  Mine required shouting so loud that the person in the next 
oom could hear me better through the wall than through the Bell telephone. 
It was Edison's carbon microphone that made it practical. 
 
s a retired Physicist and Physics teacher, I remember fondly of trying to 
ake a tinfoil phonograph using the plans from the Edison Institute Ford 
useum.  Just the machine tool technology is impressive for today.  Has anyone 
lse on this list made a mandrel shaft and feedscrew for a Home, Triumph, or 
 class?  I spent weeks last year doing just that.  The 100 thread per inch 
uttress thread of the feedscrew is not easy to do.  The tapered brass 
andrel is an odd taper and I had a number of failures before I got one that was 
perfect.  Only a few thousandths of an inch of slop in your taper attac 
ment and you are in trouble.  My reproduction of the original tinfoil machine 
as never been completed because I became frustrated with my recording and 
layback styli.  Just this week I am seeking the counsel of the most 
nowledgeable tinfoil expert in the world. 
 
hen it comes to electric lighting, I have a San Francisco Market Street 
rc lamp in my collection.  It draws 20 Amps at 80 Volts when struck, that's 
,600 Watts, and the carbon rods quickly burn out.  Many years ago when 
eaching electrical circuits I had a setup to place a filament (a term coined by 
Edison as I recall) inside a bell jar that could be evacuated.  Trust me, 
etting anything to last at incandescent temperatures is not easy, even today 
ith all the knowledge we have.  My students then had never given thought to 
he simple and ubiquitous light bulb.  Usually they were enthralled by the 
arm glow coming from the bell jar. 
 
any phonographic items were invented by Edison but he never got credit for 
hem.  Remember when the 'elliptical stylus' was introduced to play stereo 
Ps and was hailed as a great leap forward?  What do you think the contact 
rea of a 1902 Model C sapphire stylus is?  Remember the switch from sapphire 
o diamond styli in the 1960s as playback equipment improved?  That too was 
ailed.  Linear tracking?  Microgrooves? 
 
ll the best Independence Day wishes to everyone, 
 
l 
he price of Freedom is always paid in blood.  Thank a veteran today. 
 
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Message: 6 
ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:58:03 -0500 
rom: "Ken and Brenda Brekke" <kb...@charter.net> 
o: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ubject: [Phono-L] My Dearborn trip 
essage-ID: <000001cc3a9d$d4b57500$7e205f00$@net> 
ontent-Type: text/plain;        charset="us-ascii" 
Thanks for all the replies related to what to see at Greenfield Village.  I 
ever thought this question would spark such a spirited debate.  I just 
anted to make the most of our Model A Ford trip to Dearborn.  It should be 
 great trip and hopefully we'll find some treasures along the way.   
  
Ken Brekke 
  
Seeing the countryside at 40 mph in our trusty ol' Ford.  Now let's not 
tart a debate thread on how fast a Model A should be able to go.  I just 
refer to take it easy on all the backroads. 

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Message: 7 
ate: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 10:04:45 +1000 
rom: "Michael Tucker" <mtuc...@exemail.com.au> 
o: "Phono-L Post" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ubject: [Phono-L] Edison 
essage-ID: <000d01cc3aa7$2602f820$7208e860$@com.au> 
ontent-Type: text/plain;        charset="us-ascii" 
Having just made a batch of half nuts for Homes and Triumphs I respectfully 
ubmit that Home and Triumph leadscrews do not have a buttress thread, but 
re 60 degree V threads. 
  
Took a bit of research as there are contemporary reports that a buttress 
hread was used, but close inspection under a microscope clearly show the V 
orm. 
  
If anyone is in need of a quality 3/16" or 1/4" half nut in steel with 
orrect size machine screws, they are available at $20 and $24 respectively, 
ncluding postage. 
  
Hope I haven't stirred up the proverbial hornet's nest. 
  
Mike Tucker (mtuc...@exemail.com.au) 

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Message: 8 
ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 20:29:11 -0400 
rom: Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> 
o: Phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Recreating Edison's Inventions... very 
       educational... was Dearborn... 
essage-ID: <col118-w3990982a3286e04c7e8def6...@phx.gbl> 
ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 

 like the yoke assembly of the Model O reproducer with the tiny 0000-160 screw 
hat goes into the stylus bar and holds on the washer with .019 arms that no one 
akes today because it is too complicated.  100 years later one would assume 
hose items would be easily made. Steve 
> From: clockworkh...@aol.com 
 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:31:45 -0400 
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
 Subject: [Phono-L] Recreating Edison's Inventions... very educational... 
as        Dearborn... 
 
 >From tinfoil phonographs to light bulbs, Edison made things that were 
 practical and worked. 
   
 If one does not realize the difficulty of Edison's inventions then one has 
 not attempted to duplicate them.  Has anyone ever played with a reproduction 
 Bell telephone?  Mine required shouting so loud that the person in the next 
 room could hear me better through the wall than through the Bell telephone. 
  It was Edison's carbon microphone that made it practical. 
   
 As a retired Physicist and Physics teacher, I remember fondly of trying to 
 make a tinfoil phonograph using the plans from the Edison Institute Ford 
 Museum.  Just the machine tool technology is impressive for today.  Has anyone 
> else on this list made a mandrel shaft and feedscrew for a Home, Triumph, or 
 M class?  I spent weeks last year doing just that.  The 100 thread per inch 
 buttress thread of the feedscrew is not easy to do.  The tapered brass 
 mandrel is an odd taper and I had a number of failures before I got one that 
as 
 perfect.  Only a few thousandths of an inch of slop in your taper attac 
 hment and you are in trouble.  My reproduction of the original tinfoil machine 
> has never been completed because I became frustrated with my recording and 
 playback styli.  Just this week I am seeking the counsel of the most 
 knowledgeable tinfoil expert in the world. 
   
 When it comes to electric lighting, I have a San Francisco Market Street 
 arc lamp in my collection.  It draws 20 Amps at 80 Volts when struck, that's 
 1,600 Watts, and the carbon rods quickly burn out.  Many years ago when 
 teaching electrical circuits I had a setup to place a filament (a term coined 
y 
 Edison as I recall) inside a bell jar that could be evacuated.  Trust me, 
 getting anything to last at incandescent temperatures is not easy, even today 
 with all the knowledge we have.  My students then had never given thought to 
 the simple and ubiquitous light bulb.  Usually they were enthralled by the 
 warm glow coming from the bell jar. 
   
 Many phonographic items were invented by Edison but he never got credit for 
 them.  Remember when the 'elliptical stylus' was introduced to play stereo 
 LPs and was hailed as a great leap forward?  What do you think the contact 
 area of a 1902 Model C sapphire stylus is?  Remember the switch from sapphire 
 to diamond styli in the 1960s as playback equipment improved?  That too was 
 hailed.  Linear tracking?  Microgrooves? 
   
 All the best Independence Day wishes to everyone, 
   
 Al 
 The price of Freedom is always paid in blood.  Thank a veteran today. 
   
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Message: 9 
ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:35:02 -0600 
rom: "jkship" <jks...@bresnan.net> 
o: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 
essage-ID: <43F0E48E73274D9BB6CA6443AA864E81@SHIPLEYSDELL> 
ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" 
Dave,  I am sort of new at this and ignorant as well.  Here is a couple of 
Pegs of what the housing looks like. 
----- Original Message ----- 
rom: "David Dazer" <dda...@sbcglobal.net> 
o: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:15 PM 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 

ere they only used on the VTLA? I just parted out a VV-XIV and saved those 
asters and related parts. In fact, they are still attached to the legs. 
et me know if that would be of any use to you. 
ave 
--- On Mon, 7/4/11, jkship <jks...@bresnan.net> wrote: 
From: jkship <jks...@bresnan.net> 
ubject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 
o: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
ate: Monday, July 4, 2011, 3:56 PM 
I am trying to locate a set of four "ball bearing type wheel casters" for an 
arly VTLA. The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small 
nd of the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of 
ne of the cups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the 
up has a distinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three 
arts I have are missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron 
o no avail... Thanks 
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Message: 10 
ate: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:02:15 -0400 
rom: "Ron L'Herault" <lhera...@bu.edu> 
o: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 
essage-ID: <005401cc3aaf$2ebe6820$8c3b3860$@edu> 
ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII 
Van Dykes Restorers has a large selection of casters. You may find something 
ery close there. 
Ron L 
-----Original Message----- 
rom: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On 
ehalf Of jkship 
ent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:56 PM 
o: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
ubject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 
I am trying to locate a set of four "ball bearing type wheel casters" for an 
arly VTLA.  The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small 
nd of the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of 
ne of the cups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the 
up has a distinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the three 
arts I have are missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron 
o no avail... Thanks 
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Message: 11 
ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:03:36 -0400 (EDT) 
rom: clockworkh...@aol.com 
o: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, 
       M,        Home... 
essage-ID: <8ce08cee25c5a6c-218c-28...@webmail-m171.sysops.aol.com> 
ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 

G'day Mike: 
Very interesting but the M feedscrew I had to duplicate was examined under an 
ptical comparator and there was no doubt the thread of the original 1892 part 
as a 45? buttress thread.  The depth of the thread is only 0.007" so the lathe 
etup is crucial.  I will have to check the later threads but the one I did had 
 buttress thread and the halfnut was likewise set.  It would make sense to have 
 buttress thread at 100 threads per inch with the 'strong' direction pushing 
he halfnut and carriage to the right.  At 100 tpi the thread height for any 
hread should be uncomfortably small. 
On yours was the thread a 'normal' V thread that was not directional?  What was 
he depth of thread? 
It is good to see you on the list.  I hope all is well with you.  My wife and I 
ave a planned vacation down under.  Off list tell me what sights the locals 
ould recommend? 
Regards, 
Al 


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Message: 12 
ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 20:49:22 -0600 
rom: "jkship" <jks...@bresnan.net> 
o: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 
essage-ID: <2CB42914E7134A538D4C0E8B612FB19B@SHIPLEYSDELL> 
ontent-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; 
       reply-type=original 
Ron,  Thanks for the lead.  I will Google them tomorrow and see what I can 
ind. 
---- Original Message ----- 
rom: "Ron L'Herault" <lhera...@bu.edu> 
o: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
ent: Monday, July 04, 2011 7:02 PM 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 

 Van Dykes Restorers has a large selection of casters. You may find 
 something 
 very close there. 
 
 Ron L 
 
 -----Original Message----- 
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] 
 On 
 Behalf Of jkship 
 Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:56 PM 
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
 Subject: [Phono-L] VTLA wheel casters 
 
 I am trying to locate a set of four "ball bearing type wheel casters" for 
 an 
 early VTLA.  The part is a brass cup with a pressed on shoulder. The small 
 end of the cup slides up into the leg of the phonograph. In the bottom of 
 one of the cups is the remnant of a ball bearing ring. The open end of the 
 cup has a distinct crimp that I assume held the wheel. Obviously, the 
 three 
 parts I have are missing the wheel assembly. I checked with George and Ron 
 to no avail... Thanks 
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ate: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 20:08:17 -0700 (PDT) 
rom: john robles <john9...@pacbell.net> 
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ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, 
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I must agree. I had to have a feedscrew rethreaded some years ago, and the 
achinist told me he had to use an old lathe of his dad's to make the buttress 
hread at the correct pitch. 
an of worms hereby opened. 
ohn Robles 
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ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison feedscrew on mandrel shaft... Triumph, M, Home... 
o: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
ate: Monday, July 4, 2011, 7:03 PM 

G'day Mike: 
Very interesting but the M feedscrew I had to duplicate was examined under an 
ptical comparator and there was no doubt the thread of the original 1892 part 
as a 45? buttress thread.? The depth of the thread is only 0.007" so the lathe 
etup is crucial.? I will have to check the later threads but the one I did had 
 buttress thread and the halfnut was likewise set.? It would make sense to have 
 buttress thread at 100 threads per inch with the 'strong' direction pushing 
he halfnut and carriage to the right.? At 100 tpi the thread height for any 
hread should be uncomfortably small. 
On yours was the thread a 'normal' V thread that was not directional?? What was 
he depth of thread? 
It is good to see you on the list.? I hope all is well with you.? My wife and I 
ave a planned vacation down under.? Off list tell me what sights the locals 
ould recommend? 
Regards, 
Al 

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