Are Ray Wile & Ron Dethlefson on the list? Their inputs might be helpful.
Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Cartwright Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:04 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Diamond Disc Record NumberWanted Thank you all for your replies to my query! The matrix numbers are "typeset" (not hand written inscriptions) & are situated in a small portion of a semi-circular rings with rounded ends located at the bottom of the label, the rest of the circular rings being filled with small circles. These numbers are not mirror-images. There is a rectangle with rounded ends at the top of the label where the record number probably would have been impressed but this space is blank on both sides. There is a portrait of Edison on the left side inside an oval & a similar oval to the right contains patent restrictions. This diamond disc is slightly thinner than most & it's edges are slightly rounded. (I have several Edison test pressings circa 1920 which are coupled differently from the issued records & these all lack any label information other than matrix number & take letter, etc. impressed - no title, composer, artist, etc. being shown on these. A few have brown cardboard like that of later paper label diamond discs where labels are missing & some of these contain pencil notations about recording quality, etc.) Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glenn Longwell Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:36 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Diamond Disc Record NumberWanted In a spreadsheet I have of Edison matrix numbers this pairing isn't listed. Very interesting. Perhaps this one of those early pre-commercial test pressings where pairings didn't last long. Are the matrix number mirror images or regular? I have several of these early pre-commercial pressings in the presentation boxes and they all have mirror image matrix numbers. For those that haven't seen them before there's a picture of them at the link below. Very elaborate and expensive to produce. No wonder Edison didn't continue these when they went commercial. http://www.majesticrecord.com/labelsedison.htm Glenn ________________________________ From: Greg Bogantz <[email protected]> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, November 17, 2011 6:43:21 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Diamond Disc Record NumberWanted Tim Gracyk's book "Edison Diamond Disc Re-Creations" lists several pairings for this 1052 matrix number: One record number 50008 has it paired with matrix 1001 titled "No One to Love", Mixed Quartet Record #50018 has it matched with matrix 941 titled "Fairest Rose Waltz", Charles Daab Record #50021 has the same pairing as #50018 Record #50022 has it matched with matrix 1053 titled "Flower Song", Violin, Cello, Flute, Harp "Whispering Flowers" by Reed Orchestra is listed as matrix #2367, paired with matrix 2048 "Angel's Dream Waltz", Band, on record #50037. There are some other pairings of these in the 80000 series: Record 80001 has matrix 1052 paired with matrix 999 "Berceuse-Jocelyn", Cello. "Whispering Flowers" is also listed as matrix 939, paired with matrix 1250 "On the Road to Mandalay", Thomas Chalmers, on record 80003. Record 80022 has this matrix with the same pairing as 50022. I have #80022, complete with the box that it originally came in. Some of the earliest Edison DDs were packaged in a flat chipboard display box rather than in a paper sleeve. These deluxe boxes had a color picture and written descriptions of the selections on the front. There may be other pairings, but I didn't find them in a cursory scan of the book. Greg Bogantz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Cartwright" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Diamond Disc Record NumberWanted > I am cataloging my records & have one of the early "etched" label Edison > diamond discs that does not include the record number on either it's face or > edge for which I have been unable to find a record number. It is: > > > > "The Bloom is on the Rye" Henry R. Bishop, Composer - Tenor & baritone > Orchestra Accompaniment (matrix number 1052) (I've found other couplings of > this listed as sung by Harry Anthony & Charles Harrison)// > > > > "Whispering Flowers" Von Blon, Composer Band - Reed Instruments (matrix > number as best I can make out 939) > > > > I any of you know the number of this record, I'd like to know. Many > thanks! > > > > Jim Cartwright > > Immortal Performances, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
