Al:

I may be mistaken as I thought the B-60 was first made in October  1912. 

I have always represented mine as such. I thought I read it in Frows book.

Mine has the original matching record storage cabinet as well. It was the
second machine I bought.

love it

Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc grilles & cloth questions...


Greetings Doctor:

I am not sure that 'correct' is a word to apply to minor variations on
Edison machines.  The machines were assembled from parts and shipped as fast
as they could.  Variations from suppliers and from their own factory
mechanisms were to be expected. 

The B-60 was a 1913-14  machine.  It was sometime in this period that a
decision was made to use the grille cloth rather than the more expensive and
more time consuming wood graining of the horns.  It really should not be a
surprise to find both in a machine as production brought the cabinets
together with the mechanisms as one of the last steps in assembly.  I don't
think I have ever seen a B-60 that did not have grille cloth original from
the factory; but, I would not rule out a machine that never had cloth.  As
for the wood grained horns, these may have been ordered that way long before
production of the machine.  There were many production problems with the
motor of these early DD machines and sometimes the assembly was halted to
redesign the motor.  No doubt earlier horns had stockpiled and were used as
production resumed.  So, you could have a wood grained horn from early 1913
going into a grille clothed cabinet of 1914.  Had the fire not come along in
1914, you might h
 ave seen these models without the wood grained horns and only flat black
horns behind grille cloth.

These are the type of things that I would find interesting to look for at
the Edison Site.  Too bad the Site has such limited access to serious
researchers.

Best wishes,

Al





  


 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael F. Khanchalian <[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 11:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills & cloth question


Here's a "loose question" for you Al or any others.

On the B-60 or C-60 DD machine. I have seen original illustrations with
grill 
cloth, yet these have wood grained horns. What's correct here?

Kindest thanks for your thoughts.

Michael Khanchalian
(Cylinder Doctor) 


On Apr 23, 2012, at 7:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> One more loose thought, the Amberolas B5, D6, etc. that were shipped from 
cabinets left over after the December 1914 factory fire with the Amberola 30
and 
50 mechanisms will have grille clothes to keep buyers from seeing the
'lovely' 
black swinging horn behind the grille.
> 
> Regards to all,
> Al
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