Hi Steve, I have a Model N reproducer with a trowel weight that is S/N 22689. Good luck with your data. Harvey
________________________________ From: Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:30 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Gem Model E I am trying to narrow down Model N serial numbers, if anone has a Gem E I would be interested in the serial number of the N reproducer and the machine. You can reply off list if you like. Hit reply and copy and paste my e-mail address. Thanks, Steve The N was made for the Standard E and appeared around serial number 22,000 with a flat top and round weight. The N was used for the Gem E and left over Gem D machines. It was made for the later Amberolas to play the wax amberols. The N-56 was made for the amberola 5 and 6, the regular N was made for the amberola 8 and 10. 1 The first N was the round weight; it came out around serial number 22,000. This had the pot metal flat top. The first one said Nat’l Phono around 25614 they have TAE Inc on them. 2. The second N was the trowel, not to be mistaken with the N-56. The trowel N does not have a pillar for the Amberola lift. This likely came out the same time as the trowel O around 42,000. These have the early dome top. 3. Then come the bent weight N’s. I have observed the start around 46,000 and they normally have the good or last style of large top. The bent weight N has six varieties. 1. Extended H weight stamped Model N over H 4 Minute. 2. Extended H weight stamped Model N 4 Minute. 3. Extended H weight stamped Model-N in slightly larger letters 4 Extended H weight stamped N. 5. N weight stamped N 6. N weight stamped N with pin holding stylus bar in place. The Frow book has four of these and does not mention the trowel weight N. 7. Then the N-56 which has three serial number varieties. First the regular O and N serial number, I have seen one in the 70,000 range. Then more commonly I have seen four in the R and S serial number range of 31,000. Finally the A series, I know of an N-56 with an A287 serial number. I believe the A series were made after the fire but I could be mistaken. I do know for certain that C, H and K’s were made after the fire along with 2 and 4 minute recorders. In 1911, Edison's companies were re-organized into Thomas A. Edison, Inc. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
