Robert L. Gibson designed the Gibson Gramophone for submission to Frank Seaman as a less expensive and technically superior machine to the Johnson-designed "Improved Gramophone" (known as the "Trademark" to us collectors). The Berliner management wouldn't accept the design. Gibson later designed and patented the Exhibition sound box, which Victor manufactured under license, paying a royalty to Gibson of 10 cents per unit if I remember correctly. (This undoubtedly made Gibson a very wealthy man!) Gibson also designed and patented the metal traveling arm used on some front mount Victors, and this was also manufactured by Victor - probably under a similar royalty arrangement. I'm not familiar with the Gibson arm as used on Zonophones.
George P. -----Original Message----- From: bruce78rpm <bruce78...@comcast.net> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 7:46 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Whoops, Ok, I do have your wonderful descriptive pictorial "A world of Antique Phonographs" but unfortunately I do not have "Discovering Antique Phonographs", so for now I guess I am out of luck, as far as seeing the rare and seldom seen Gibson Gramophone. Was it made by the same folks who supplied the Gibson Traveling arm for various early Victor Talking machines, and the Gibson arm for Zonophones ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Paul" <gpaul2...@aol.com> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:39:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed I don't know about websites, but 3 photos of a Gibson Gramophone may be seen on pages 58-59 of Discovering Antique Phonographs. George P. -----Original Message----- From: bruce78rpm <bruce78...@comcast.net> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 4:27 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed An obvious misunderstanding. I had acquired a Victor Monarch Jr., that came with a Gibson (Sheet Metal type) traveling arm, that was missing the swivel pin, which I needed in order to make it functional . Ken from Wisconsin, was the only collector or supplier for that matter, that I was able to find that actually had a spare and he graciously sold it to me for a reasonable price. I never have owned a Gibson Phonograph. Is there any website where one of these rare Gibson's can be seen ? Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed hi bruce so there are three gibson phonographs now i know the oliphants and howard hazelcorn each have one is your complete zono -----Original Message----- From: bruce78rpm <bruce78...@comcast.net> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 8:02 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even ore obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your est bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph ollector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts s well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson raveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. honograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will orward it to you. ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Bob Maffit" <maff...@bresnan.net> o: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> ent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM ubject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another "needle in a haystack" however, this group has lways helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a art! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it as: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my ictor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an "extension" for the crank which attaches to the motor inding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The rank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance rom the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked ike it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? oreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob _______________________________________________ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ______________________________________________ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
