Never mind. I was thinking of the British indestructible record company's 
product. Plaster core with metal wire rings at the end.
John

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On Oct 22, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Steven Medved <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Hello John, The British ones do not have a plaster core, it is cardboard.  I 
> thought it was a plastic.  Reference Allen again: The Lamberts that have a 
> ('cardboard')  "liner" are from  England. Their 
> boxes were the red and black design with elephant. American  Lamberts (no 
> matter what color) are truly hollow, except for the last  (1905) with their 
> plaster 
> interiors.
> Back to me, you can read the info below if you like. Steve hi Steve,   it may 
> appear to be hard plastic, but not really, in those  days. If it came in the 
> red and black elephant box, and has the raised  lettering on the rim, it is a 
> British Lambert, with a 'cardboard' core. As you  imply, it may not be 
> regular cardboard but impregnated with some kind of  asphaltum material to 
> make it waterproof and non-warping. I have seen such  cylinders in black and 
> ivory colors. The brown ones tend to be completely  hollow. Lamberts are a 
> fascinating subject. Allen I  believe some Lamberts have a liner.  I have 
> three black Lamberts.   One 
> says Edison Bell Indestructible on the bottom, one is and IPLS French  
> lesson, 
> the third is in a red and black box that says The New Lambert and it  has a 
> liner.  It is 5077 Fol the Rol Lol by H Bluff and has what appears  to be a 
> hard 
> plastic liner.  All have raised letters.  
> 
> I  have an Indestructible with the metal bands, 653 that also has raised
> etters.  
> 
> 
> 
> ================
>   The Lamberts that have a ('cardboard')  "liner" are from  England. Their 
> boxes were the red and black design with elephant. American  Lamberts (no 
> matter what color) are truly hollow, except for the last  (1905) with their 
> plaster 
> interiors.
> 
>  The raised-letter rims of Albany Inds are the very first from  ca ("pre") 
> Nov 1907. They mimic that style from the last US Lamberts,  although the 
> "direction/orientation" of rim-imprinting is different.
> 
>  The interior metals rings were patented by Philpot &  Matthews.
> 
> Allen
>> From: [email protected]
>> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:28:36 -0700
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Lambert cylinder
>> 
>> I think the British Lamberts had a plaster core, didn't they?
>> John Robles
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2012, at 12:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> An interesting Lambert cylinder appeared on ebay recently.  But  I have 
>>> never seen this before. A Lambert cylinder with a plaster core.  Was  this 
>>> added by the factory or was it perhaps done after sale?  I thought the  
>>> Lambert 
>>> cylinders were made without plaster cores to avoid antitrust  conflicts.
>>> Ebay item # is 200833537441
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Art  Heller
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