Hi Bob ~ I believe you have the fourth Victor XII: 501 was the first 502 503 504
Congratulations! It's relatively unlikely that the three earlier s.n.'s will ever surface, so unless/until the unlikely day that one does, you can claim to have the earliest currently known VV-XII. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Oct 28, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Bob Maffit wrote: > Loran: > > So... > > If the Victor VV-XII was the first table model made, and this one has the sn > 504 > > Does that indicate it was the 3rd Victor table phonograph made? > > later > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Loran Hughes > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:19 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Styles of the VV-XII > > Given that serial numbers started at 501, that would be extremely early. A > real find, indeed! > > Loran > > On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:58 PM, "Bob Maffit" <maff...@bresnan.net> wrote: > >> Jerry: >> >> thanks for the information. I think I have the earlier one as I don't find >> any "fancy molding" around the machine at all. >> >> the phonograph ID plate has, what must be the sn of: 504 >> >> Interesting, the machine also has a company id plate as well. It is from >> Sherman, and Clay co. from Spokane. I looked it up and they started a > store >> in 1906. >> >> >> OH! I was mistaken, I was able to remove the motor from the motor board. I >> just needed a little more time and investigation. >> >> thanks >> >> Bob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] > On >> Behalf Of DeeDee Blais >> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:16 PM >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Subject: [Phono-L] Styles of the VV-XII >> >> The first style XII is a little plainer than the later XII. The > doors >> over the horn are very thin. The later XII has a bit of fancy trim that >> runs around the machine under the lid and the doors over the horn are >> slightly taller. I think the model was made for slightly over a year and >> production must have been quite evenly split between the two styles. I >> think the mechanical parts were the same for each style. >> I think it's very interesting that when Victor introduced less >> expensive table model Victrolas, like the table model X and slightly later >> the IX, the top of the horn was open and the motor sat in the horn. Any >> noise produced by the motor came out through the horn. It must have been > an >> effort to use up the more obsolete motors. One does not normally find >> evidence where Victor blatantly sacrificed quality and performance. > Wouldn't >> it be interesting to sit in a meeting where these decisions were made by >> Victor executives? >> >> Jerry Blais >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
