Hello Al, Welcome back and thanks so very much. Angelo has a Gem that I
believe the serial number is 42,000. Both the case and the carriage is missing
so I will let him know it is not the branded case Gem. I really appreciate
the information you sent me and I will save it. When you are rested we can
discuss when the centering pin appeared on the Edison small carriage, I have an
idea. From George Paul I discovered there was a several month gap when the
machines were made and when they were shipped. Thanks again, Steve
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:43:37 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Branded case Gem with Gem speaker (off list)
>
>
> Greetings Steve:
>
> I just returned from my Asia cruise and spotted your question. The Gem went
> through a number of mechanical variations as well as esthetic ones from the
> caseless version through the last of the keywound Model As. The carriages
> are not interchangeable and the feedscrews with drive gears are not the same
> from the first to the last As. The serial number range of the branded case
> Gem stops just after 36000. So, if the serial is 37000 or later then the
> banner varnish transfer (decal) label is the correct one and the Gem Special
> Automatic Speaker was changed to the Model B Reproducer about the same time.
> (maybe even together at the same time)
>
> There is one seller on eBay who mixes parts and called a later branded case
> Gem a 'transitional model' which drove me crazy! You cannot have a carriage
> arm built-in Gem Automatic up in the 36000s when a bayonet in Gem Special
> Automatic was introduced some 20,000 machines earlier...
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Al
>
>
> PS: Above information guaranteed to be 50% correct as I am still jet lagged
> to the nth degree.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Medved <[email protected]>
> To: phonolist <[email protected]>; phono-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:41 am
> Subject: [Phono-L] Branded case Gem with Gem speaker
>
>
>
> If the carriage and the lid is missing how would you tell a branded case Gem
> from the later Gem with the Model B reproducer? The reproducers are not
> interchangeable, but is the carriages?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
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