Do you realize how wonderful this is?
 
Steve
 

> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> From: gpaul2...@aol.com
> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:16:28 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Banner Long Case Edison Home A
> 
> You're very welcome!
> 
> 
> George P.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Dazer <dda...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 5:50 am
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Banner Long Case Edison Home A
> 
> 
> Amazing! I appreciate this so much. People always ask when it was made and I 
> have only been able to approximate. 
> Thanks so much!
> Dave
> 
> --- On Tue, 12/18/12, George Paul <gpaul2...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: George Paul <gpaul2...@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Banner Long Case Edison Home A
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 10:06 PM
> 
> 
> No trouble at all.
> 
> 
> Home No.276131 left the factory in July 1907. Home No.173676 left the factory 
> in January 1906. 
> 
> 
> George P.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Dazer <dda...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 18, 2012 8:46 pm
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Banner Long Case Edison Home A
> 
> 
> 
> That is so interesting!! Can you tell me when Home number 276 131 was born? 
> That's the one with the repeater I am trying to find parts for. I also have 
> Home 
> 
> H 173 676 if it is not too much trouble to ask.
> Dave
> --- On Tue, 12/18/12, George Paul <gpaul2...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: George Paul <gpaul2...@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Banner Long Case Edison Home A
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 5:35 PM
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> 
> I have monthly sales data for each Edison model up through May 1908. By 
> extrapolating the monthly sales, a reasonably accurate idea of when a machine 
> left the factory can be determined. It's very helpful for research. I 
> promised 
> 
> not to publish this data until the donor does so, but in the meantime I can 
> help 
> 
> other collectors date machines.
> 
> 
> George P.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Dazer <dda...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 18, 2012 3:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Banner Long Case Edison Home A
> 
> 
> Where do you keep getting these dates for the Home model? I am very intrigued.
> Dave
> 
> --- On Tue, 12/18/12, George Paul <gpaul2...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: George Paul <gpaul2...@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Banner Long Case Edison Home A
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 12:34 PM
> 
> 
> Home No.29180 left the factory about April 1900.
> 
> 
> George P.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bruce78rpm <bruce78...@comcast.net>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 18, 2012 12:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Banner Long Case Edison Home A
> 
> 
> I know this is a little off track in the discussion, but my Banner Home is 
> H29180, I found as part of that bulk purchase from an Elderly Gentleman's 
> basement in which I also found those home made brown wax cylinders that were 
> featured in Archeophone's CD "Actionable Offenses that was nominated for a 
> Grammy. Since the Gentlemen told me that he had purchased them years ago 
> together, I often wondered whether the Banner Home was used to record the 
> Cylinders. Oddly the gentlemen told me that he had never used it or played it 
> and the case and everything on it were in pristine shape, just needed a good 
> lube and oiling to get it going again. Covering the top of the serial number 
> plate and extending under the mandrel was something I had never come across 
> before, what I presume was an off Market shavings catcher, so when I removed 
> the 
> 
> 
> 
> catcher which had obviously been in place for many many decades the nickle 
> plated serial number tag was just like new. What would be the approx. date of 
> mfg. of H29180 ? This would give me some clue as to whether it was actually 
> used to make the Brown Wax cylinder Recordings. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Bruce 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad abell" <out...@aol.com> 
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:28:59 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Banner Long Case Edison Home A 
> 
> 
> My red banner Home with nickle tag is H42799 and was found with a winged B-- 
> It 
> was a Pennsylvania attic find a couple years ago. It's one of the nicest 
> condition machines I've seen in a long time-- decal is near mint, original 
> stitched belt in good shape, gold is 95%+. Just a beautiful machine that was 
> complete with a 42" all brass horn, original crane and 103 cylinders. I love 
> it!! 
> 
> Brad 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike Tucker <mtucker1...@gmail.com> 
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
> Sent: Mon, Dec 17, 2012 11:25 pm 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Banner Long Case Edison Home A 
> 
> 
> I have 43744 listed as red and gold banner, but this is well and truly 
> beaten by the one on eBay at the moment - H42115 with R and G banner and 
> NICKEL tag. The earlist Black and Gold version I have listed is H53447. 
> 
> Mike 
> 
> On 17/12/2012 6:43 AM, Michael F. Khanchalian wrote: 
> > Thank you so much Al! 
> > 
> > One of mine is 48485 and I can't get at the other one right now :-) 
> > 
> > So appreciative for the marvelous resource you are to all of us ! 
> > 
> > Michael K. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone 
> > 
> > On Dec 16, 2012, at 2:35 AM, clockworkh...@aol.com wrote: 
> > 
> >> 
> >> Hello Michael: 
> >> 
> >> You will find the red banner range of the Model A 'long case' Home to be 
> >> from 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> the introduction of the 'New Cabinet' style to H52234 which is the highest I 
> have confirmed. By H52251 the black banner has been used and the red is 
> history. 
> >> 
> >> I have seen a seller on eBay with a refinished Home B cabinet using a 
> >> modern 
> red banner decal declare the machine to be an "all original rare and highly 
> desirable red banner Home." Again, this makes me want to scream at the 
> computer... 
> >> 
> >> Regards, 
> >> 
> >> Al 
> >> 
> >> PS: The 'New Style Cabinet' came in just before 41000. So, about 12,000 
> >> red 
> banner long case Home As were made. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message----- 
> >> From: Michael F. Khanchalian <mfkhanchal...@altrionet.com> 
> >> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
> >> Sent: Sun, Dec 16, 2012 12:02 am 
> >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Any idea around what serial number the banner Home 
> case was dropped? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> While we're at it gang, I'd love to know the range of serial numbers 
> >> within 
> >> which the early red banner (originally placed on the lid) appeared on the 
> front 
> >> of the Home case. 
> >> 
> >> Michael K. 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone 
> >> 
> >> On Dec 15, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Mike Tucker <mtucker1...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> I have 205836 with a banner. Records are not up to date so will try to 
> >>> see 
> if 
> >> any are higher. 
> >>> Mike Tucker 
> >>> 
> >>> On 16/12/2012 2:59 PM, George Paul wrote: 
> >>>> I know - - I was just being a smart ass. The Edison Phonograph Monthly 
> >> announced the end of the banner decals on all models in the September 1906 
> >> issue. Taking into account the set-up for that issue occurring in August, 
> about 
> >> the closest I can estimate is that the Home lost the banner decal around 
> serial 
> >> No.210,000 or a bit earlier depending on how long the change had been in 
> effect 
> >> when it was announced in the EPM that "...all models are now being sent 
> out..." 
> >> with the new decal. A safe range would probably be between 205,000 and 
> 210,000. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> George P. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message----- 
> >>>> From: Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> 
> >>>> To: phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org>; phonolist 
> >>>> <phonol...@yahoogroups.com> 
> >>>> Sent: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 10:25 pm 
> >>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Any idea around what serial number the banner Home 
> >>>> case 
> >> was dropped? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> That is what I meant to ask. I wish I could afford an editor. Steve 
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