Well both Jefferson and Washington owned slaves-but they both knew it was
morally wrong and that fact came out and has discussed in just the last 15
years. Saying that these "things" are socially acceptable does not make it
right. While not what completely fueled what happened in Germany It was
a major part of it. My wife is German born, her mother was part of the
Hitler Youth, but her father died in a German political concentration camp
because he knew it was wrong. But many Germans just went along with it
because it seemed the thing to do-and then it became to late to do anything
about it.

I have always wondered that if men like Edison and Ford were so great why
they could not see "above the clouds". remember i was just trying to add to
the fact that that we may need heroes, we should not be blind to their
shortcomings.

By the way I have Edison machines and a Ford as well-but I do not think of
as any different then the Omega watch that I own and the Apple that I use.
Abe

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:59 PM, The Farmers <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is getting off the topic of phonographs, but there actually were
> quite a few light bulb inventors before Edison that put filaments into
> evacuated glass bulbs and patented their ideas. Edison's bulb was
> considered practical when he came up with a filament that was bright
> enough, would last long enough, and could be produced at a cost reasonable
> enough to be commercially successful.
>
> -- Greg Farmer
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Nichol" <[email protected]>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:25 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :)
>
>
>  This is my pet peeve!  Edison DID invent the light bulb. To say he only
>> perfected it is ridiculous. By definition, a light bulb consists of a glass
>> bulb with a filament inside. Only Edison had that.  This would be like
>> saying that whoever invented "stairs" also invented the escalator, because
>> the fact that the "moving" part is not significant to the definition of
>> "escalator".
>>
>> I think it is most telling that no one was selling light bulbs before
>> Edison, and that Swan had actually stopped working on the light bulb before
>> he saw what Edison did. Then he suddenly started crying that Edison stole
>> his idea. Heck, for all the success that Swan had, he might as well have
>> put a candle in a glass globe.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Chris Kocsis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  But to get back to some useful  information about Edison, he didn't
>>> invent the light bulb.
>>>
>>
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