ID:               39447
 User updated by:  krudtaa at yahoo dot com
 Reported By:      krudtaa at yahoo dot com
 Status:           Open
 Bug Type:         Feature/Change Request
 Operating System: All
 PHP Version:      5.2.0
 New Comment:

Hi PHP developers.

Does anybody know if somebody are working on this or not?

If not, how long (hours) would it take to develop a solution where one
could use session variables with the upload hooks, so one does not have
to install APC to make it work?

If anybody are interested I might want to pay dollars ($$$$) to make
this happen to the developer that do it.


Previous Comments:
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[2007-10-02 18:37:10] brandon at invisionpower dot com

I'm inclined to agree with the request, actually.

The hooks are great.  It's also great that APC provides a way to use
them - but what about the thousands (millions?) of users on shared
hosting who don't have control over their operating environment.

One of my (many) projects that I'm a part of is a download management
system, and of course as you can imagine an upload progress meter is
among the top requested features.  I've just implemented one for our
next release utilizing APC, but I fear the number of users who will be
able to actually utilize it are relatively low.

It would be nice to see some sort of functionality within PHP itself
(without the need for any extensions) to be able to utilize the hooks.

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[2007-06-01 09:48:01] krudtaa at yahoo dot com

Okay....

More specific request here:

I would like to be able to use the upload hooks with other storage
module(s) than APC.

A storage module that are more commonly included in PHP installations
than APC.

I would like to see support for the upload hooks in these modules:

-Files module

...and when that works, then why not also make it work against the

-mm module

Maybe, in near future, we can be able to reference a session variable 
in order to read the status from the upload!

So, is there any PHP developer that will make sure this is done?
And when can we expect to see it implemented?
This year, next year, 5 years, ?....

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[2007-05-29 07:49:42] krudtaa at yahoo dot com

Using the word native was probably a miss...

I try one more time:

What I ment by native was this:

Making it possible to use the new upload hooks without having 
to include extensions.

Example:

www.domeneshop.no offers usage of php.

BUT THEY DO NOT OFFER USAGE OF APC, as well as many other.

My point was that by incorporationg a method to use the new upload
hooks without having to rely on some extensions that MANY do not
include in their PHP installation, then many many more users of PHP
could actually make use of the new (and VERY practical) upload hooks.

And I suggested a way to make it work....
By using session variable to store the data regarding the upload
progress, which would be accessible for practically all the PHP
installations around (version dependant though).

If you developers do not see this point .... then huhhh 
... I give up.

Why not make it as easy as possible for the users of PHP to be 
able to use the upload hooks, is beyond me.

So come on, let the upload hooks be accessible as it is today, with the
usage of extensions like APC....
AND also by using a SESSION variable

And at last...
If you developers are not willing to do this, 
what is your motivation for NOT doing it?
Do you not want most users of PHP to be able to use the new upload
hooks?

What matters in the end, at least for me, is what I can offer my
end-users.
And beeing able to easily offer them a way to actually see in
"real-time" the progress of the upload is a huge step in the right 
direction.
But as it is now, it is just for the few "lucky" ones that are able to
make use of APC....

I'm a little confused that there is so little interest in making these
new upload hooks more accessible!!!

Regards

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[2007-05-28 20:29:43] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Is there any plans to support upload progress natively in PHP?

Extensions are native to PHP.

>The hooks are there, why not make it possible to use them 
>without any extensions?

"Why not to make _everything_ possible without any extensions?"
Because it does not make sense.

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[2007-05-28 13:17:57] krudtaa at yahoo dot com

Hi.

So, is there any chance to get this work without any extensions like
APC in near future.

Why not make the core PHP store the related data in a session variable,
still using JSON?

Is there any plans to support upload progress natively in PHP?

The hooks are there, why not make it possible to use them without any
extensions?

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