Edit report at http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=51396&edit=1

 ID:               51396
 Comment by:       codeslinger at compsalot dot com
 Reported by:      codeslinger at compsalot dot com
 Summary:          Math is Unreliable
 Status:           Bogus
 Type:             Bug
 Package:          Math related
 Operating System: any
 PHP Version:      Irrelevant

 New Comment:

P.S.  Please note that in my own testing I have verified that the
presence or absence of the xdebug and zend debug extensions do not alter
the behavior of this bug, this was verified on Windows.



Also note how for instance 5.2.4 fails on Windows and on Ubuntu but
works on Mandriva  (or at least was not found to fail on Mandriva).



Also I can tell you from my own testing that the specific values which
fail on Windows are very different from the specific values which fail
on Unbuntu, when tested on the same computer.  The only thing which can
be said with some level of confidence is that all of the failures
involve numbers with the digit 9 in them.  Since these are 58? digit
numbers and only a very few specific values fail, the potential to NOT
see a failure is huge.


Previous Comments:
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[2010-05-24 13:59:45] paj...@php.net

Please read my last comment and provide the info I asked there. Without
that, there is not a chance to get anywhere regarding this issue.

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[2010-05-24 13:46:10] codeslinger at compsalot dot com

In Summary:  As Reported by Multiple People



Windows XP (32 bit)  PHP 5.2.4  Fails

Windows XP (32 bit)  PHP 5.2.5  Works

Windows 2000 (32 bit)  PHP 5.2.5  Works

Windows XP (32 bit)  PHP 5.2.9  Fails

Windows 2000 (32 bit)  PHP 5.2.9  Fails

Windows 2000 (32 bit)  PHP 5.2.11 Fails

Windows 2003 (?? bit)  PHP 5.2.12 Fails

Windows 2003 (?? bit)  PHP 5.2.13 Fails



Ubuntu 8 (32bit)  PHP 5.2.4  Fails

Ubuntu 8 (32bit)  PHP 5.2.9 (custom build)  Works

Ubuntu 9 (64bit)  PHP 5.2.10  Works



Mandriva 2008 (32bit & 64bit)  PHP 5.2.4 Works

Mandriva 2008 (32bit & 64bit)  Unpatched PHP 5.2.5 Fails



This bug has been reported by multiple people.  The above list is the
combination of my own testing plus what I found reported by other
people.  The windows oses are all using the STOCK BUILD as provided by
php.net





It is very important to understand that the specific values which fail
are highly variable.  A specific value which fails on one os/php version
does not necessarily fail on a different combination of os+php, but a
different value will fail instead.



It is also important to realize that given the obscurity and variability
of this bug, just because a particular version of php is reported as
working, does not guarantee that the bug does not exist, it only says
that so far no one has reported encountering a specific value which
triggers this bug.



All of the following are thought to influence the specific behavior and
reproducibility of this bug.



The number of cpu bits

The operating system

The specific version of php

The compiler flags that were used to build php

The "precision" setting for php

The format specifier/precision in an sprintf statement

sprintf versus implied (string) conversion



It is also possible that the floating point hardware could have an
influence on the reproducibility of this bug.



Since the WORK-AROUND did not work for John, it would appear that we
still have a problem which needs to be solved.

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[2010-05-24 03:17:36] john dot smith dot 1964 at gmail dot com

This problem isn't fixed for us by adding "ini_set("precision", 16);".
Our PHP 

install is stock off the website (5.2.4 and 5.2.13, for instance) and
our box runs 

Windows 2003.

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[2010-05-24 02:18:46] paj...@php.net

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[2010-05-24 02:04:27] codeslinger at compsalot dot com

Yipee!!!  at least I have finally found a work-around that I can live
with!!!

You can close this bug now.





The Mandriva Devs seem to think that this is actually a GCC bug and that
it is Dependant on the build flags used.  You can read about it here.  
https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=37171

Thanks to John (above) for the link.





A lot more reading/searching of this WELL KNOWN ISSUE  finally lead me
to here:  



http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2008/01/10/php-vs-bigint-vs-float-conversion-caveat/



and here:

http://www.farad.com.au/source_code/php/setting_floating_point_precision_src.php





To cut to the chase, the actual work-around is to change the
"precision".  This solution was hinted at by my simplefail.php program
(test option 20), but I was unaware of an ini setting that is available
for this.



The solution to all of this madness and it is very mad indeed...   is to
add the following in your php program.  



ini_set("precision", 16);





End of Problem.... End of Bug...



Like Good Day Eh?

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