Edit report at https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=32100&edit=1

 ID:                 32100
 Comment by:         toplegocreator at hotmail dot com
 Reported by:        ceefour at gauldong dot net
 Summary:            Request 'finally' support for exceptions
 Status:             Closed
 Type:               Feature/Change Request
 Package:            Feature/Change Request
 Operating System:   *
 PHP Version:        5.*
 Block user comment: N
 Private report:     N

 New Comment:

"Though this is still possible (however much more to type) it is wrong design. 
Since obviously you are using the exceptions as control flow."

If exceptions should never be propagated up the stack to a block of code that 
knows how to deal with them, why are exceptions there in the first place? 
Exceptions ARE flow control. That's their reason for existing. If they 
shouldn't be used that way, they shouldn't be included in the language.

Let me elaborate. An exception should occur any time when the current block 
cannot successfully continue execution in the current state and has no direct 
means (or shouldn't have any direct means because of good separation of 
concerns) of informing the client of the problem. A finally clause, while not 
strictly needed if code repetition is acceptable (and it isn't in my book), is 
appropriate for ensuring that resources (like database connections, open files, 
a printer, whatever) are released when fatal errors occur. Trying to deal with 
the error as some kind of returned result all the way up the stack will just 
make your code more difficult to read and maintain; an error should go all the 
way up the stack until a piece of code that's responsible for output can 
determine how to inform the client. That's how exceptions are supposed to be 
used, and a finally clause makes it possible to properly and (fairly) reliably 
release resources, which is also a best practice.


Previous Comments:
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[2012-04-19 20:00:39] simon at stienen dot name

RAII is an elegant solution for tidying up scopes reliably.
It is also possible in PHP to do RAII without writing one class per resource 
type:

<?php

class ScopeGuard {
    private $callback;

    function __construct($callback) {
        $this->callback = $callback;
    }

    function __destruct() {
        if (is_callable($this->callback)) {
            call_user_func($this->callback);
        }
    }
}

function do_something() {
    mysql_query("LOCK TABLES mytable WRITE");
    $guard = new ScopeGuard(function() {
        mysql_query("UNLOCK TABLES");
    });

    try {
        // ... do lots of queries here
    }
}

?>

$guard will be destructed when leaving the do_something - either by throwing an 
exception or by exiting the function normally.

HOWEVER: RAII in C++ (which neither employs nor needs a finally keyword) is 
more subtle - or rather: Scopes are. In PHP you can define a variable within a 
loop or a conditional block - and use it afterwards. In C++ you can't. A 
variable defined inside a certain block will be destroyed once the block is 
left. Consider the following example:

<?php

function do_something() {
    if (foo) {
        mysql_query("LOCK TABLES mytable WRITE");
        $guard = new ScopeGuard(function() {
            mysql_query("UNLOCK TABLES");
        });

        try {
            // ... do lots of queries here
        }

        // *1*
    }

    do_something_else();

    // *2*
}

?>

In C++, this would work as expected of a "finally" replacement and unlock the 
tables at *1*, when the if scope closes. In PHP however, $guard will only be 
destroyed when leaving the function at *2*. This can be fixed by manually 
adding an unset($guard) at *1*, but this is inelegant and error prone.

So, while I have never needed finally, I think the way PHP works and is used 
absolutely validates its introduction as a useful addition to the language. The 
alternative would be to introduce C/++ style closed scopes, but those would 
most likely not only break a lot of existing code, but the coders as well, as 
they do not even remotely fit into the way PHP is written.

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[2012-04-12 15:42:21] matthias at die-legendaeren dot de

"Just going to say 'Me too!'? Don't clutter the database with that please !"

But this is the right place for a "me too": to prove that a statement from 12 
years ago was shortsighted and in a "works for me" way, developers (as 
customers) 
who disagree have to group behind their request.

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[2012-04-11 21:21:33] gudjonj at gmail dot com

+1 for finally in PHP

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[2012-04-11 08:34:13] ravilov at gmail dot com

My two cents...

Here's an example of emulating "finally" in PHP without needing to duplicate 
code.


$_ex = null;
AllocateSomeResource();
try {
    DoSomeProcessing();
} catch (Exception $ex) {
    $_ex = $ex;
}
DeallocateSomeResource();
if ($_ex != null) {
    throw $_ex;
}


That said, I completely agree any current workaround/emulation/"solution" is 
nothing but cumbersome and bug-prone, and that we shouldn't have to come up 
with such creative ways to overcome what seems like a language design flaw. PHP 
is a tool, it is supposed to work *with* us, not *against* us.

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[2012-04-03 13:08:00] andrew dot feller at gmail dot com

The demand for "finally" is a symptom of PHP not officially and explicitly 
addressing supported solutions to managing resources.  I cannot find anything 
within PHP documentation to address this:

http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.decon.php
http://www.php.net/manual/en/faq.misc.php

So I recommend to move beyond inclusion of finalizers and start with educating 
constituents because there is an opportunity to resolve this and hopefully 
improve quality of work done by developers

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