ID:               29460
 Updated by:       [email protected]
 Reported By:      kylewong at southa dot com
-Status:           Feedback
+Status:           No Feedback
 Bug Type:         Session related
 Operating System: linux kernel 2.6.1
 PHP Version:      4.3.8
 New Comment:

No feedback was provided for this bug for over a week, so it is
being suspended automatically. If you are able to provide the
information that was originally requested, please do so and change
the status of the bug back to "Open".


Previous Comments:
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[2005-02-03 04:56:58] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please try using this CVS snapshot:

  http://snaps.php.net/php4-STABLE-latest.tar.gz
 
For Windows:
 
  http://snaps.php.net/win32/php4-win32-STABLE-latest.zip



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[2004-07-31 08:34:59] kylewong at southa dot com

30 minutes after delete all session data files while apache running.
5500 sessions online, 22M disk space taken by session files. average
session file size around 1.5kb.

http://www2.southa.com/~kylewong/top-8.gif

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[2004-07-31 08:14:22] kylewong at southa dot com

httpd grow back to 10-12MB
http://www2.southa.com/~kylewong/top-6.gif

2 minutes later after delete all session data while apache running:
http://www2.southa.com/~kylewong/top-7.gif

session.php:
class GallerySession {}

if (session_id()) {
        $useStdClass = 1;
}
/* Start a new session, or resume our current one */
@session_start();

$sessionVar = "fsess";
session_register($sessionVar);

if (isset($$sessionVar)) {
        $gallery->session =& $$sessionVar;
} else {
        /* Register the session variable */
        session_register($sessionVar);

        /* Create a new session container */
        if ($useStdClass) {
                $$sessionVar = new stdClass();
        } else {
                $$sessionVar = new GallerySession();
        }
        $gallery->session =& $$sessionVar;
}

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[2004-07-31 06:53:02] kylewong at southa dot com

more informations:
apache fresh start without any session data:
http://www2.southa.com/~kylewong/top-1.gif

about 30 minutes later, httpd size grow around 1.5M
http://www2.southa.com/~kylewong/top-2.gif

1 hour later from beginning, httpd size reach 10M, total session data
size around 16M, average session file size around 2kb, around 4k
sessions online.
http://www2.southa.com/~kylewong/top-3.gif

stop and restart apache without delete session data, most httpd size
reach 10M immediately after apache start.
http://www2.southa.com/~kylewong/top-4.gif

stop, delete all session data, and restart apache. 
http://www2.southa.com/~kylewong/top-5.gif

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[2004-07-30 18:49:24] kylewong at southa dot com

Description:
------------
apache 2.0.48, php 4.3.7, 4.3.8
session handler = file
apache keepalive timeout = 1
apache maxclient = 192
apache mpm = prefork
session timeout = 1500
session file storage: tmpfs

problem: php doesn't free memory used by session.

My website is a high traffic site, process around 1800k php pages per
day. The server always has around 5000-10000 sessions (25 mminutes)
online. Each session file take around 200 bytes to several Kb, total
session data take around 20-30MB.

I found that my average httpd process size grow slowly from average 8MB
to 1x-2xMB (take around 1-2 hours), my server always has around 200
httpd running (keepalive timeout = 1), system resouce decrease while
httpd take more and more memory. 

At fresh start without any session data stored, my system has around
400MB buffer and 800MB cache, httpd size average round 8MB. 

When httpd processes grow to around 15MB, the system has only around
300MB buffer and 300MB cache, of course, server performance drop a lot
since my site is very disk intensive (load lots of informations from
thousands of serialized objects)

It seems that the httpd process doesn't release all used memory after
finish processing a page. 

I found that if I delete all the session data files while apache
running, httpd processes start free up memory and system buffer and
cache start growing to normal (400MB, 800MB), but after some time,
httpd start grow again and system resources used for buffer and cache
start decrease.

Also, I found that, when the average httpd process size are at says
20MB, even if I stop and restart apache, all httpd process size will
startup at 20MB, and keep growing. That's mean, I can't free up memory
used by httpd processes by kill and restart apache, I need to delete
the session data files to free up resouces.

Sorry about my bad english, wish that someone can help me in my
situation, thanks a lot.








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