Here is the URL for the Oracle 8i client (Sometimes I wish they would put things in easily found locations). http://download.oracle.com/otn/nt/oracle8i/oracle816client.zip It is 200 Megs (rounded up). This includes all possible varients of the client install (administrator, programmer, base client, etc..) It may ask you for a log on and password. Apparently the membership is free, just sign up and you will have no troubles. Hope this helps, Randall Barber P.S. - I previously posted that the client was under the 8i personal edition, that is false, it was found under the 8i Enterprise Edition.