You might want to also check out Virtuoso
http://www.openlinksw.com/virtuoso/
It's as scalable ast the 'cadillacs' and has expected features like
triggers, foreign keys, and stored procedure support, and is considerably
cheaper.
It also has advanced XML, SOAP, and WebDAV features - fun to work with in
PHP :)
Best regards,
Andrew Hill
Director of Technology Evangelism
OpenLink Software http://www.openlinksw.com
Universal Data Access & Data Integration Technology Providers
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Szii [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 4:22 PM
> To: Paul Gardiner
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] db's war
>
>
> IMHO, having run all three, I summarize them like this...
>
> MySQL, Postgres
> Fast, open source, free. Good for projects, small-medium sized
> businesses,
> and playing around.
>
> DB2
> Good, solid database. Their UI needs work (it's 100%
> java-based) and it's
> significantly more complex (and pricier) than the OpenSource ones.
> However,
> it IS slower. It can handle MUCH larger datasets. It can be run in a
> clustered
> environment. It has the robustness for large business, but can
> be handled
> by a
> medium sized one.
>
> Oracle
> Often referred to as the "Cadillac of Databases," this thing's a beast.
> Expect to not
> only pay through the nose for it, but also for help/contractors/DBAs to
> set it up,
> tune it, maintain it, and handle the problems. It -can- be setup by
> smaller firms, but
> definately do your homework here. Go with someone who's been doing it a
> while
> and is in the enterprise space you want to be in. It's also got a HUGE
> set of
> applications and modules that can run on top of the raw database (no one
> else really
> has this from a single vendor) but that's a whole new can of
> worms, costs,
> problems,
> etc.
>
> My personal favorite is DB2. The key to DB2, though, is not the common
> sense things
> like "do the training classes" and "get a book." The key is in their UI
> stuff. Ditch it.
> Learn the command lines, the scripting tools, and the database
> connectivity
> stuff. Sure,
> you can do simple things with their UI, but it's going to
> restrict you in a
> lot of ways.
> DB2 is big enough for "real enterprise work" but small enough not
> to get out
> of hand.
>
> However, DB2 is almost the cost of Oracle (purchasing) but your recurring
> costs are
> considerably cheaper. Oracle does have the advantage of being "first" and
> so the
> knowledge base/finding people who know a bit about Oracle is easier, and
> they DO have
> all of the applications modules which DB2 currently does not have. (Rumors
> are that they're
> looking at expanding into that realm a little more, but I don't know
> anything for sure.)
>
> If you need a consolodated system for the whole company, well, Oracle wins
> that hands down.
> If you just need a super fast lightweight database, OpenSource.
> For everything else, DB2.
>
> And if you need a kick-arse track-anything-anywhere-anyhow system, look at
> Camstar Systems,
> which will handle backends of both DB2 and Oracle. It's better than the
> Oracle MES/tracking modules.
>
> -Szii
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sommai Fongnamthip"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] db's war
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm also very interested in other peoples thoughts and
> reactions to this.
> > We've been hit twofold, we run on SCO which Caldera has now
> taken over and
> > also use Informix which IBM have acquired, whom I'm sure will
> try to make
> us
> > move to DB2 at some point.
> >
> > The other trouble we have is a lot of our programs are written
> in Informix
> > 4GL and so will be a pain to convert. I would have liked to of had a DB
> > independent 4GL but this was already in place before I got
> here. The only
> > real other choice like you say is Oracle but I've always heard
> bad things
> > regarding pricing where they are concerned. They had a special offer on
> for
> > anyone who jumped over two them quickly but I like to 'look before you
> leap'
> > :)
> >
> > We plan to start looking at possible alternative's before we're
> forced to
> > change and so would be glad to hear from anyone else who is in the same
> boat
> > so to speak.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > - Paul -
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sommai Fongnamthip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:36 AM
> > Subject: [PHP-DB] db's war
> >
> >
> > > hi
> > > I'd like to survey php commnunity about how do you think about merge
> > > between informix and ibm? Did there remain only 2 major dbms (oracle
> and
> > > db2)? do you think MySQL will be the leader with next version 4?
> > >
> > > SF
> > >
> > >
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