ID: 10171 Updated by: cynic Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: Open Old-Bug Type: Scripting Engine problem Bug Type: Documentation problem Assigned To: Comments: problem here is that include()s & require()s are runtime thingies. I got bitten by this just yesterday: if you e. g. redeclare a function in a require()d file, the 'fatal error: function redeclaration...' does appear, but at runtime, not during compilation. Anyway, this is what Andi told me on the subject: The main reason [require() was changed to happen at run time rather than at compile time] was that it was supposed to improve performance and it didn't. It actually tended to slow things down. Removing this also allowed us to reduce the memory usage of PHP scripts (not as important). (...) It really sucked and we managed to clean up some code and internals due to taking it out. I wouldn't want to put it back in. So, this is by design. -> docuprob Previous Comments: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [2001-04-04 19:05:28] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Define a function. Put a call to that function BEFORE it is defined. That works, as documented. Now put the function in an include()'d or require()'d file. Call the function before the include() or require(). It fails. Since the code is pre-compiled beforehand, shouldn't the function calls still work? If this is "as designed" it might be nice to place a caveat in the documentation that states "you can call a function before you define it ONLY if the function isn't buried in an include()." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATTENTION! Do NOT reply to this email! To reply, use the web interface found at http://bugs.php.net/?id=10171&edit=2 -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]