Hm, another way to deal with overflows could be returning null, if it's
acceptable to return a different type than expected at least.  With 0 or
max/min, it won't be possible for a program to detect overflows.  With
null it would be.

 - Stig

Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Stig S. Bakken wrote:
> 
> > In cases like these I think PHP should do whatever C does.  There's no
> > point in trying to be clever when casts overflow.
> 
> In C, when you doe int i;, i will contain random data.
> In PHP, a variable will always be cleared (to null).
> 
> In C, when you cast a out-of-range-float, I doubt wether it's defined.
> 
> Furthermore, PHP is not C, so I see no reason to follow C just like
> that. What do you expect from trying to store a too big float in an
> integer? I expect an error, and the nearest valid result. I really see
> no logic in the current behavior, only that it makes a limited amount of
> unsigned-int faking possible. But floats are floats, that's not going
> well all the time (see the numerous bugreports on this kind of
> gotcha's). So also for this reason I believe there should be no such
> wrapping behaviour, as it might lead people to think unsigned ints are
> supported, resulting in very strange things.
> Especially the E_NOTICE when this happens will help a lot of people IMO.
> 
> In the case of casting larger integers into smallers, it's differnt
> because you're talking about _intgers_ then, and not floats.
> 
> --Jeroen
> 
> >
> >  - Stig
> >
> > Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > >
> > > Resent, due to lack of feedback from my side ;)
> > >
> > > Andi replied:
> > > >>
> > > Why is it more correct to convert it to min/max values? I can't think of a
> > > case where this would make more sense to the developer.
> > > Also, there is a reason for the cast to unsigned int if the value is bigger
> > > that LONG_MAX.
> > > <<
> > >
> > > I think it makes sense. If a float is out-of-range, it can usually not be
> > > mod'd by 2**32, due to the nature of floats. Therefore, the only consistent
> > > way would be going to the nearest integer possible.
> > >
> > > Okay, because on most systems floats happen to be more precise than int's,
> > > you _can_ mod them by 2**32, but there is a quite significant possibility of
> > > having rounding errors. You cannot do integer-precision with floats.
> > >
> > > And it's inconsistent too, PHP int's are ranging from -2**31 to (2**31)-1,
> > > there is no such thing as unsigned integers. So why convert the float 3e9 to
> > > something way below zero?
> > >
> > > Additionally, a notice is a good idea here, just like what happens on
> > > division by zero: the most natural result is returned, and a notice is
> > > issued.
> > >
> > > --Jeroen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeroen van Wolffelaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:39 AM
> > > Subject: [PATCH] Fix for inconsistent float->int converting
> > >
> > > > When a too-large float is converted to integer, it happens in a quite
> > > > random way. When float is out of range, PHP should stick to the min
> > > > resp. max values of integer.
> > > >
> > > > This patch will achieve this, I tested it succesfully.
> > > >
> > > > --Jeroen
> > > >
> > > > Jeroen van Wolffelaar
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > http://www.A-Eskwadraat.nl/~jeroen
> > > >
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