On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 23:31, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
> > I would like reinstatement of msession into the main tree, and if you
> > oppose I would like a serious discussion to take place on the developer
> > list. If you support it, I need you to sound in on the discussion.
> >
> > I intend to re-add it back to CVS early next week. I have spent a good
> > amount of time on the extension, I think, and many will agree, it is a
> > good extension and deserves to be in the main tree, not PECL.
> >
> > The msession extension and daemon represents almost a years worth of
> > work and over 40,000 lines. The primary purpose of this effort was PHP.
> > The notion of removing it out of the main tree without it even being
> > discussed on the develpers list is scary.
> >
> > I am left with the feeling I was ambushed by this group. The action was
> > taken without proper discussion, and certainly much quicker than it
> > should have, and definitely without ensuring that I was notified before
> > the fact.
> >
> > Just remember, your extension may be next!
>
> I apologize for not notifying you before moving it. However, you should
> consider a few things.
>
> 1. The discussion about moving msession to PECL did take place on the
> list, albeit some time ago.
>
> 2. Having it in PECL does have its benefits.
>
> 3. As we've discussed in the past, *a lot* of extensions currently
> living in ext/ will be moved to PECL. PHP should come with a lean set
> of extensions and we should widely advertise where they can get the
> rest.
>
> So, indeed, someone else's extension may be next.
I would like to point out that moving to PECL ("pickling") is not the
same as not having stuff bundled with PHP anymore. The main point is to
separate CVS areas, so the main PHP distribution has more control on
what versions of different extensions it bundles. As good as every
extension (except ext/standard) could move to PECL, where they can live
happily with their own release cycles, and PHP be released with the
latest stable version of each it wants to bundle.
In addition, since each PECL extension is also a PEAR package,
extensions may be upgraded individually if the extension was build as a
shared lib.
How far we want to go one way or the other is still in the open.
- Stig
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