On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Garland foster wrote:

> Derick et al,
> 
> What about the native DBM support? Nobody answered that part.

I'm -1 on bundling anything, for the reason you will find in the archives 
(no need to repeat them again).

Derick

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> To: Yasuo Ohgaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 5:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Suggestion about native DB support.
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> 
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
> >
> > > Garland Foster wrote:
> > > > I have a strong feeling that it would be a very good idea to ship PHP
> (*nix and Win) with some native, BUNDLED
> > > > support for some DBM-files format. It can be very nice to have a
> native set of DBM-like functions available in PHP
> > > > no matter the operating system or how PHP was compiled.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think gettext module is also a good one to be enabled by default
> > > or recommend users strongly.
> >
> > It relies on an external library, so that won't be a good thing. gettext
> > is not available for every platform, and we are not going to bundle it.
> >
> > >
> > > Most I18N(?) aware PHP applications are not using gettext and
> > > using slower approch, define messages as PHP vars or constants.
> > >
> > > Enabling gettext by default may change this situation in the
> > > long run.
> >
> > Do we need to prevent everybody from shooting in their feet? I don't think
> > so. Users who need it will find out about gettext.
> >
> > > Since we cannot bundle everything, how about have a logo program
> > > for a standard php installations? If users confirm standard
> > > requirements, give permission to use PHP standard logo, for
> > > example.
> >
> > How would this help them, and what does it give us (The PHP team)?
> >
> > Derick
> >
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