But how do you propose we come up with perfect Apache 2.0 support? If we
limit it to the pre-fork mpm, we can probably get quite close to perfect
stability, but for any of the threaded mpms we are completely at the mercy
of the threadsafetyness of all the various third party libraries on all
the various platforms that PHP runs on. There is simply no way to ensure
that PHP against Apache 2.0 with a threaded mpm will be production
quality. The best we can do is pick a small set of extensions and a small
set of platforms and say that with the limited set of extensions, against
a specific set of versions of addon libraries on a specific version of
that OS, yes, it should be production quality - maybe.

-Rasmus

On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>
> > I think that at this point we should switch from wish-list mode, to
> > a down-to-earth realistic mode.  That is, not put everything that we
> > want to see in the roadmap, but only things which are either
> > pre-requisites or things we know with a great deal of certainty.
>
> I don't know what the timing of PHP 5 will be vis-a-vis Apache 2.0
> stabilization, but it'd be real nice if we could have a "production
> quality" Apache 2.0 module.
>
> I know there's been a lot of work on the module and I rememeber
> reading that what it mostly needs now is burn-in and testing. (Maybe
> there is some additional functionality or optimizations we also wish
> to enable?)
>
> So, it could be that everything is perfect by 4.3, but I think it
> would be "good," if we could tell everyone that 5.0 "works" with
> Apache 2.0.
>
> That could be a nice sized carrot, for those looking for vegetables to
> support a vegan lifestyle. :)
>
> -adam
>
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