On 12 Nov 2002, Timm Friebe wrote:

> On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 23:26, Stig S. Bakken wrote:
> [...]
> > > The problem here is that PHP's E_WARNING does not resemble an exception.
> > > Some of the warnings raised are only of informational intent and do not
> > > indicate the failure of a function.
> [...]
> > Right.  What this illustrates is that "PHP errors" as such as way too
> > random and unstructured to be of any other use than showing error
> > messages to developers.
> 
> Well, would it be wise then to either:
> * Change informational warnings to E_NOTICE
>   (e.g. Notice: Called ... before fetching all rows ...)
> or
> * Introduce E_FAIL and use it for cases when a function fails
>   (say, fopen('/doesnotexist', 'r'))
> 
> In both cases, people doing string magic with $php_errormsg (if
> ereg("not exist", $php_errormsg)) or having their own error handlers
> consisting of constructs like
>       if (E_WARNING == $code) 
> would see their code break.
> 
> As for the first suggestion, the downside is that a lot of people will
> miss the message(s) since they've disabled E_NOTICEs.

And that's why I would be -1 on the first one. However, the whole error 
reporting is a pretty mess, with some extensions implementing other 
'philosiphies' then others. Getting this all nice and clean is another 
point we should address in PHP 5 (just like Stig mentioned).

Derick

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