As a side note, since throttling is coming up so frequent lately I just want to remind you guys that we're developers here. We can finally build a platform that enforces throttling on a technical level, like reddit does. Almost every forum software has this feature. This would solve ALL the problems with the flame threads really. And we could leave the IRC as a channel for politics wars. On Jun 25, 2016 12:14, "Mike van Riel" <m...@mikevanriel.com> wrote:
> > On 25 Jun 2016, at 11:07, Michael Cullum <m...@michaelcullum.com> wrote: > > Robert, > > Off the top of my head (without digging through every medium and logs of > each instance we were contacted) I think almost all were asking explicitly > for expulsion and almost all [including Mike] also saw the email draft to > make sure it was not conveying anything they had not intended. It is > intended to say these people complained as they believe there is a problem > that needs a resolution (of some kind, an expulsion if it comes to it). The > next step in that is having an open and honest discussion, which we are > right now, and if it still cannot be resolved, we can have a vote on > expulsion, which is the only thing we can really do if discussions do not > resolve the issue here. > > I'll let those listed clarify their own intent further as I do not wish to > put words in mouths and I am aware many are currently at DPC and it is now > the weekend so replies may take some time. > > Thanks, > Michael > > P.S. Sorry for the top post, I'm on my phone. > > On 25 Jun 2016 1:47 a.m., "Robert Hafner" <ted...@tedivm.com> wrote: > >> >> > First of all: my name is on the list as someone who has indicated that >> there is a situation that needs to be resolved; expulsion would definitely >> not be my preference since Paul is indeed an active member, even though his >> most recent contributions to this list have given me the impression that he >> is no longer active when it comes to furthering PSRs but rather some kind >> of political agenda. >> >> >> >> Could the Secretaries jump in here and specify which voting members on >> the list explicitly asked for expulsion? My understanding from reading the >> first message was that all of the people on that list explicitly wanted him >> out. I am sure that others on the list may have also misunderstood this, so >> I think it’s important to make this clear. >> >> Rob >> > > In an attempt to clarify and confirm: the e-mail as sent by Michael has > indeed be proofread by me and in no way do I feel misrepresented. I > consider my mention in the listing of people who complained to be as it is; > a listing of people who complained. I also consider expulsion to be a very > last resort and I do not oppose the situation as explained by the > secretaries. > > This does not change that I sincerely hope that we can all discuss this > and come to a satisfactory conclusion without the need for drastic measures > and as such my mention in the opening post is not, in my case, a de-facto > +1 for expulsion. If another solution comes that will remove my complaints > then I will be more than happy to accept it. > > Corollary: contrary to what Cal presents; my complaints are not out of > spite or dislike for Paul Jones. I do not share his world views and will > actively campaign against various of them when asked to _outside_ of this > group. Yet I will do anything in my power to minimise the influence this > has on my behaviour within this group. So far Paul Jones has kept the views > that I cannot in good conscience accept outside of this group and I honour > him doing so. For this I respect him. It is his way of expressing himself > and how he ‘resolves’ situations that do not align with his views that I > find obstructive to the mission of the PHP-FIG. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/php-fig/w38tCU4mdgU/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/BAA6DC01-5486-4E3E-991E-DE388AE1C18A%40mikevanriel.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/BAA6DC01-5486-4E3E-991E-DE388AE1C18A%40mikevanriel.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/CANamvv2bfsWUzBWenXO_49wRFFfss2VnBzdOx%2BYKk4qE2Wxn-w%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
