php-general Digest 21 Aug 2006 11:58:49 -0000 Issue 4305
Topics (messages 240928 through 240942):
Re: Script timing out.
240928 by: Chris
240929 by: Jeroen
Re: Shopping cart
240930 by: Gerry D
240931 by: Skip Evans
240932 by: Peter Lauri
240936 by: Larry Garfield
Recommendations for PHP debuggers?
240933 by: Dave M G
240934 by: Robert Cummings
240935 by: Paul Scott
240937 by: Dave M G
240938 by: Marcus Bointon
240939 by: Tony Marston
240940 by: Colin Guthrie
Regex
240941 by: Nadim Attari
stupid compile problem... additional ini files not found
240942 by: Jochem Maas
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Tom Ray [Lists] wrote:
I just installed PHP Open Chat and I'm getting an error when I log in
about the script being unresponsive. Anyone ever run into this? Or could
shed a light as to what causes this error? I've never seen it come up
before.....I'm running PHP 4.4.2/Apache 2.0.5
You're better off asking the people who develop the application. They
know the code, we don't.
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On 8/21/06, Tom Ray [Lists] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I just installed PHP Open Chat and I'm getting an error when I log in
about the script being unresponsive. Anyone ever run into this? Or could
shed a light as to what causes this error? I've never seen it come up
before.....I'm running PHP 4.4.2/Apache 2.0.5
I think it would be helpful if you post the complete error. Also, is
it the browser
or the script (PHP) giving the error?
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Jeroen
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On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother.
Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that
because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons,
and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations?
TIA
Gerry
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Granted, the shopping cart/credit card processing
modules I've been required to write have not been
massively complex, but I am still a bit baffled
why so many fully qualified programmers
automatically leap to Xcart, OSCommerce, and other
such solutions when shopping carts are not at all
difficult to write.
I've found the third party jobbers I've looked at
to be messy code-wise, and that's being polite.
If you have anything custom to do, if the cart
doesn't work just the way you want it, you'll
spend more time trying to get OS and X doing what
you want then just writing it yourself.
But that's just my opinion.
Gerry D wrote:
On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother.
Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that
because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons,
and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations?
TIA
Gerry
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Big Sky Penguin, LLC
61 W Broadway
Butte, Montana 59701
406-782-2240
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Agreed...
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From: Skip Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:25 AM
To: Gerry D
Cc: Larry Garfield; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PHP] Shopping cart
Granted, the shopping cart/credit card processing
modules I've been required to write have not been
massively complex, but I am still a bit baffled
why so many fully qualified programmers
automatically leap to Xcart, OSCommerce, and other
such solutions when shopping carts are not at all
difficult to write.
I've found the third party jobbers I've looked at
to be messy code-wise, and that's being polite.
If you have anything custom to do, if the cart
doesn't work just the way you want it, you'll
spend more time trying to get OS and X doing what
you want then just writing it yourself.
But that's just my opinion.
Gerry D wrote:
> On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother.
>>
>
> Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that
> because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons,
> and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations?
>
> TIA
>
> Gerry
>
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Big Sky Penguin, LLC
61 W Broadway
Butte, Montana 59701
406-782-2240
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On Sunday 20 August 2006 20:17, Gerry D wrote:
> On 8/19/06, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > OSCommerce is crap. Don't bother.
>
> Why do you say that, Larry? I may want to get into an app like that
> because I think one of my clients is ready for it. What are the cons,
> and what are my options? What are Drupal's limitations?
I tried using it for a client last summer, because it was available free on
the client's web host. It is extremely rigid. If you want a program that
works the way they want and looks kinda like Buy.com with a table-based
layout in 3 columns with certain visual effects, it's fine. If you want to
change or customize anything, good luck. Nearly everything is hard coded
with HTML and presentation PHP and business logic PHP all mixed in together.
With a table based layout.
Ugh.
As for using pre-build vs. rolling your own, the main reason I favor
ready-made is the bank hookups. Anytime financial stuff is involved, I'd
rather use something someone else already debugged than roll my own.
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which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to
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PHP List,
For the last month I have been using Zend Studio and Zend Platform on
the one month trial period. It works well enough that I was considering
purchasing it.
But it's only now that I realize that the one feature that makes it
worthwhile for me, the "debug server" option, is only available in the
professional edition.
I'm just a lone PHP programmer doing web pages for mainly non-profit
(not charitable, just extremely cash poor) organizations. The difference
between the 100 US dollar standard edition and the 300 US dollar
professional edition is a deal breaker.
So I'm looking around for other debugging options.
The best contender so far has been Quanta with the Gubed plug in. But it
is buggy, and while I've had success in running it, I've also had as
much trouble. Especially with some error messages that won't go away:
http://forum.gubed.mccabe.nu/viewtopic.php?t=396&sid=5b76626496aab99293e062c494a7af2e
After that PHPeclipse seems good. By "seems" I mean that I've installed
Eclipse and PHPeclipse and can run them and see they have a sexy
interface and all. But trying to download the DBG package that makes
PHPeclipse interface with the server is near impossible.
As I'm an Ubuntu user, I tried looking up distro-specific instructions
for installing DBG, and the one forum entry on the topic I found:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6672
... says to go to this web page:
http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-index.php?page=DbgBasedDebugger
... where the installation instructions are for Windows!
There's also a package called "NuSphere", which is paid software, but
also rests on the DBG debugger technology. I'm very hesitant to
encounter the same difficulties in installing DBG and having to pay for
it as well.
I asked once before on this list about which PHP editors people
recommend, which is how I heard of Eclipse.
However, now I'm asking:
Does anyone know how to get a reliable PHP graphical debugger to
actually install and work on Linux?
Any tutorials or instructions available anywhere that are newbie
friendly? After all, aren't the newbies the ones most likely to be the
ones to use a GUI debugger?
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
--
Dave M G
Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
Kernel 2.6.17.7
Pentium D Dual Core Processor
PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2
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Are you sure you need a debugger? I find the best tools around for
debugging are echo(), print_r(), ob_xxxx(), and error_log(). Of course,
I use a function that wraps the print_r(), and ob_xxx() functions for
simplicity. I've never found a debugger for PHP to be particularly
useful.
Cheers,
Rob.
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 12:55 +0900, Dave M G wrote:
> PHP List,
>
> For the last month I have been using Zend Studio and Zend Platform on
> the one month trial period. It works well enough that I was considering
> purchasing it.
>
> But it's only now that I realize that the one feature that makes it
> worthwhile for me, the "debug server" option, is only available in the
> professional edition.
>
> I'm just a lone PHP programmer doing web pages for mainly non-profit
> (not charitable, just extremely cash poor) organizations. The difference
> between the 100 US dollar standard edition and the 300 US dollar
> professional edition is a deal breaker.
>
> So I'm looking around for other debugging options.
>
> The best contender so far has been Quanta with the Gubed plug in. But it
> is buggy, and while I've had success in running it, I've also had as
> much trouble. Especially with some error messages that won't go away:
> http://forum.gubed.mccabe.nu/viewtopic.php?t=396&sid=5b76626496aab99293e062c494a7af2e
>
> After that PHPeclipse seems good. By "seems" I mean that I've installed
> Eclipse and PHPeclipse and can run them and see they have a sexy
> interface and all. But trying to download the DBG package that makes
> PHPeclipse interface with the server is near impossible.
>
> As I'm an Ubuntu user, I tried looking up distro-specific instructions
> for installing DBG, and the one forum entry on the topic I found:
> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6672
> ... says to go to this web page:
> http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-index.php?page=DbgBasedDebugger
> ... where the installation instructions are for Windows!
>
> There's also a package called "NuSphere", which is paid software, but
> also rests on the DBG debugger technology. I'm very hesitant to
> encounter the same difficulties in installing DBG and having to pay for
> it as well.
>
> I asked once before on this list about which PHP editors people
> recommend, which is how I heard of Eclipse.
>
> However, now I'm asking:
>
> Does anyone know how to get a reliable PHP graphical debugger to
> actually install and work on Linux?
>
> Any tutorials or instructions available anywhere that are newbie
> friendly? After all, aren't the newbies the ones most likely to be the
> ones to use a GUI debugger?
>
> Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> --
> Dave M G
> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
> Kernel 2.6.17.7
> Pentium D Dual Core Processor
> PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2
>
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| InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com |
:------------------------------------------------------------:
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| a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services |
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On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 00:18 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> Are you sure you need a debugger? I find the best tools around for
> debugging are echo(), print_r(), ob_xxxx(), and error_log(). Of course,
> I use a function that wraps the print_r(), and ob_xxx() functions for
> simplicity. I've never found a debugger for PHP to be particularly
> useful.
>
Besides the above (and var_dump - if possible plus the PEAR Var_Dump
package to make it more readable) I only really use XDebug (pecl install
xdebug).
I also use Ubuntu, and I have a copy of Zend Studio Pro, but I don't use
the debugging functionality, as I find it a little counter intuitive.
Best thing to do IMO, is set your error_reporting to E_ALL or E_STRICT
and install xdebug.
--Paul
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Paul, Robert,
Thank you for replying and for your recomendations.
While looking into PHP debuggers, I've often come across mention of
simply using functions like var_dump() and print_r().
But unless I misunderstand the concept, one has to be always writing
these commands into the code, see what they do, and then take them out
again when you actually want the code to run as you intend it to be seen.
And I don't see how you can do things like watch variables or set break
points. Again, unless I don't see it, to watch a variable through many
steps of a script, you'd have to place a var_dump() at each juncture,
run the whole script, and pick through the output afterwards. If you
have arrays which many elements - $_SERVER usually has about 30 or more
- that could be quite a lot of text dumped to the screen.
While I can see that this approach would work, it also seems to me to
involve much more manual labour.
In the end, it may just be a personal thing. I'm much more of a graphics
guy who wants to do some more stuff with his web pages than a hard core
coder. I prefer a more GUI approach to development.
Zend didn't really wow me. It took weeks of back and forth with their
support to finally get it up to speed. I'll give them credit for having
very friendly and responsive support staff. But I would have much rather
not needed to use their support so much.
But I'd rather that then have to have to build my own set of error
handlers, which would themselves need constant tweaking, especially as
I'm a newbie.
--
Dave M G
Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
Kernel 2.6.17.7
Pentium D Dual Core Processor
PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2
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On 21 Aug 2006, at 04:55, Dave M G wrote:
So I'm looking around for other debugging options.
One oft-overlooked option: xdebug.org. It enhances PHP's built-in
debugging features enormously, adds profiling, trace and coverage
logging, remote debugging too. The improved readability of stack
traces alone makes it worthwhile IMHO.
Marcus
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Marcus Bointon
Synchromedia Limited: Creators of http://www.smartmessages.net/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.synchromedia.co.uk/
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Check out PHPEdit from http://www.waterproof.fr/products/PHPEdit/ It has an
integrated debugger and is a lot cheaper than Zend Studio Pro.
--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org
"Dave M G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> PHP List,
>
> For the last month I have been using Zend Studio and Zend Platform on the
> one month trial period. It works well enough that I was considering
> purchasing it.
>
> But it's only now that I realize that the one feature that makes it
> worthwhile for me, the "debug server" option, is only available in the
> professional edition.
>
> I'm just a lone PHP programmer doing web pages for mainly non-profit (not
> charitable, just extremely cash poor) organizations. The difference
> between the 100 US dollar standard edition and the 300 US dollar
> professional edition is a deal breaker.
>
> So I'm looking around for other debugging options.
>
> The best contender so far has been Quanta with the Gubed plug in. But it
> is buggy, and while I've had success in running it, I've also had as much
> trouble. Especially with some error messages that won't go away:
> http://forum.gubed.mccabe.nu/viewtopic.php?t=396&sid=5b76626496aab99293e062c494a7af2e
>
> After that PHPeclipse seems good. By "seems" I mean that I've installed
> Eclipse and PHPeclipse and can run them and see they have a sexy interface
> and all. But trying to download the DBG package that makes PHPeclipse
> interface with the server is near impossible.
>
> As I'm an Ubuntu user, I tried looking up distro-specific instructions for
> installing DBG, and the one forum entry on the topic I found:
> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6672
> ... says to go to this web page:
> http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-index.php?page=DbgBasedDebugger
> ... where the installation instructions are for Windows!
>
> There's also a package called "NuSphere", which is paid software, but also
> rests on the DBG debugger technology. I'm very hesitant to encounter the
> same difficulties in installing DBG and having to pay for it as well.
>
> I asked once before on this list about which PHP editors people recommend,
> which is how I heard of Eclipse.
>
> However, now I'm asking:
>
> Does anyone know how to get a reliable PHP graphical debugger to actually
> install and work on Linux?
>
> Any tutorials or instructions available anywhere that are newbie friendly?
> After all, aren't the newbies the ones most likely to be the ones to use a
> GUI debugger?
>
> Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> --
> Dave M G
> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
> Kernel 2.6.17.7
> Pentium D Dual Core Processor
> PHP 5, MySQL 5, Apache 2
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Marcus Bointon wrote:
On 21 Aug 2006, at 04:55, Dave M G wrote:
So I'm looking around for other debugging options.
One oft-overlooked option: xdebug.org. It enhances PHP's built-in
debugging features enormously, adds profiling, trace and coverage
logging, remote debugging too. The improved readability of stack traces
alone makes it worthwhile IMHO.
Be warned tho'. I have had several odd apache crashes when running PHP
as a module with xdebug installed. Totally inexplicable and very
confusing (not to mention it took me a while to be able to run httpd via
gdb successfully!)
If you're using PHP Eclipse, it may be worth looking at the Zend
alternative Eclipse plugin.
I've not hooked up the debugger yet, but it /should/ be good if it's
from Zend.
http://www.zend.com/phpide/
PS the all-in-one package is probably easier to get started with rather
than your distro's Eclipse package (took me about an hour to get all the
dependancies located and installed), tho' it does work either way.
Col.
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Hello,
I have some text in a table... the text contains hyperlinks (but not
html coded, i.e. plain "Some text...http://www.something.com";)
When i retrieve these texts from the table, i want the hyperlinks to
become clickable, i.e. <a href etc added automatically.
"Some text...<a
href="http://www.something.com";>http://www.something.com</a>"
I know this sould be done using Regex, but i don't know regex.
Any help (links, examples, etc)
Thanks
Nadim Attari
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hi people,
anyone know why my additional ini files are being ignored.
I've just built php5.1.1
the configure line is:
'./configure' '--with-interbase=shared,/opt/firebird'
'--with-apxs2=/usr/sbin/apxs' '--with-gd=shared' '--with-zlib-dir'
'--with-jpeg-dir' '--with-config-file-scan-dir=/etc/php.d' '--with-mm=/usr'
the dir [that php is configured to look in for additional ini files] exists:
# ls -lart /etc/php.d/
total 32
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 375 Aug 21 12:42 interbase.ini
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 51 Aug 21 12:42 gd.ini
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1130 Aug 21 12:42 apc.ini
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 21 12:45 .
drwxr-xr-x 91 root root 12288 Aug 21 13:20 ..
YET, doing a 'php -i' shows that no files were read from that dir:
<SNIP>
PHP Version => 5.1.1
System => Linux testserver.dynabyte.nl 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 #1 Tue Mar 14 15:48:33
EST 2006 i686
Build Date => Aug 21 2006 13:43:09
Configure Command => './configure' '--with-interbase=shared,/opt/firebird'
'--with-apxs2=/usr/sbin/apxs'
'--with-gd=shared' '--with-zlib-dir' '--with-jpeg-dir'
'--with-config-file-scan-dir=/etc/php.d' '--with-mm=/usr'
Server API => Command Line Interface
Virtual Directory Support => disabled
Configuration File (php.ini) Path => /etc/php.ini
Scan this dir for additional .ini files => /etc/php.d
PHP API => 20041225
</SNIP>
the following line should be part of the snippet just above the last line (PHP
API):
additional .ini files parsed => /etc/php.d/apc.ini, /etc/php.d/gd.ini,
/etc/php.d/interbase.ini
any takers?
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