php-general Digest 28 Feb 2007 19:34:49 -0000 Issue 4651

Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:37:52 -0800 

php-general Digest 28 Feb 2007 19:34:49 -0000 Issue 4651

Topics (messages 249575 through 249607):

Re: echo text - anti-spam-spider measure
        249575 by: Stut
        249585 by: Jochem Maas
        249589 by: tedd
        249591 by: Dave Goodchild
        249607 by: John Taylor-Johnston

Re: Who in  this list would you...
        249576 by: Chris
        249588 by: Robert Cummings
        249593 by: Jay Blanchard

Your input would be appreciated.
        249577 by: lmth.deakin.edu.au

Re: Audio CAPTCHA
        249578 by: Németh Zoltán

Re: PHP Documentation in XML
        249579 by: Roman Neuhauser

Re: Extract printable text from web page using preg_match
        249580 by: Colin Guthrie

Re: IE6 session issues
        249581 by: Dave Goodchild

ID problem
        249582 by: Delta Storm
        249583 by: Németh Zoltán
        249595 by: tedd
        249597 by: Tim
        249598 by: Tim

Re: destructor sequence explained
        249584 by: Satyam

Re: getting authentication information from apache
        249586 by: Jochem Maas

Re: Include file path.. please help im newby
        249587 by: Jochem Maas

FTP issues
        249590 by: Larry Bradley
        249602 by: Jochem Maas

Re: Combining sound files
        249592 by: tedd
        249599 by: Colin Guthrie

Re: how to retrieve pictures from postgreSQL DB
        249594 by: tedd

Config language support
        249596 by: edwardspl.ita.org.mo
        249600 by: Seak, Teng-Fong
        249601 by: edwardspl.ita.org.mo
        249604 by: Seak, Teng-Fong
        249605 by: Richard Lynch

PDF Overflow
        249603 by: Eddie Schnell

SimpleXML & libxml options (XInclude)
        249606 by: Ben Roberts

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John Taylor-Johnston wrote:

Neat, and thnaks.
How spam-spider-proof is it? I will try this though.
But I will also try it with "mailto:"; in entities as well.
Thanks!
John

<!-- HERE ARE THE ENTITIES -->
<a href="mailto:&#109;&#101;@&#115;&#111;&#109;&#101;&#119;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101;.&#99;&#111;&#109;";>&#109;&#101;@&#115;&#111;&#109;&#101;&#119;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101;.&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> 
<!--ENTITIES ABOVE!-->
Of all the possible methods, entities are the easiest for bots to handle. They just need to decode the entities.
More reliable methods involve using javascript to write out the mailto: tag. Do it in several statements. But even then, some of the smarter spiders will execute simple javascript like that. You can make it better by using onload to execute the javascript which means the spider will need to implement that, which I don't believe they do at the moment.
Of course the best way is to use an image and don't link it. If it's just a way for visitors to contact you, use a contact form. You don't expose the email address and can control it a lot better. 

-Stut

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Stut wrote:
> John Taylor-Johnston wrote:
>> Neat, and thnaks.
>> How spam-spider-proof is it? I will try this though.
>> But I will also try it with "mailto:"; in entities as well.
>> Thanks!
>> John
>>
>> <!-- HERE ARE THE ENTITIES -->
>> <a
>> href="mailto:&#109;&#101;@&#115;&#111;&#109;&#101;&#119;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101;.&#99;&#111;&#109;";>&#109;&#101;@&#115;&#111;&#109;&#101;&#119;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101;.&#99;&#111;&#109;</a>
>>
>> <!--ENTITIES ABOVE!-->
> 
> Of all the possible methods, entities are the easiest for bots to
> handle. They just need to decode the entities.

in the past I found the following to be annoying enough for harvesters not to 
bother:


function obsfucateString($str)
{
    $ret = '';
    for ($i=0;$i<strlen($str);++$i)
       $ret.= (mt_rand(0,1) ? '&#x'.sprintf("%X",ord($str{$i})) : 
'&#'.ord($str{$i})).';';

    return $ret;
}

no idea if it's still even remotely useful.

> 
> More reliable methods involve using javascript to write out the mailto:
> tag. Do it in several statements. But even then, some of the smarter
> spiders will execute simple javascript like that. You can make it better
> by using onload to execute the javascript which means the spider will
> need to implement that, which I don't believe they do at the moment.
> 
> Of course the best way is to use an image and don't link it. If it's
> just a way for visitors to contact you, use a contact form. You don't
> expose the email address and can control it a lot better.
> 
> -Stut
>

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At 11:22 PM -0500 2/27/07, John Taylor-Johnston wrote:
I need an anti-spam-spider measure for my site. Too many addresses are getting raked. In once instance, I created a flash page: 
http://erasethis.glquebec.org/English/contact.htm
But I just don't have the time to create a flash image for every single instance, most of which come from dynamically printed PHP pages from a MySQL database.
Could I dynamically create a flash image, input the email and tell the flash image to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Do anyone have a solution? Does one already exist?


I agree with Stut that entities are the easiest for bots to handle.
As for myself, I use javascript Enkoder -- you can Google it for a way to use it. 

As for an example of its use, please review:

http://sperling.com/contact.php

and inspect the source.

Cheers,

tedd

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On 2/28/07, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


At 11:22 PM -0500 2/27/07, John Taylor-Johnston wrote:
>I need an anti-spam-spider measure for my site. Too many addresses
>are getting raked. In once instance, I created a flash page:
>http://erasethis.glquebec.org/English/contact.htm
>But I just don't have the time to create a flash image for every
>single instance, most of which come from dynamically printed PHP
>pages from a MySQL database.
>
>Could I dynamically create a flash image, input the email and tell
>the flash image to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Do anyone have a solution? Does one already exist?

I agree with Stut that entities are the easiest for bots to handle.

As for myself, I use javascript Enkoder -- you can Google it for a
way to use it.

As for an example of its use, please review:

http://sperling.com/contact.php

and inspect the source.

Cheers,

tedd

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Can I PHP generate a flash *.swf? How?
If not how do I PHP generate a *.png or gif?

Jochem Maas wrote:

Stut wrote:

Of course the best way is to use an image and don't link it.

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Peter Lauri wrote:

[snap]
[snip]
He would need to work in-house. And the location is somewhere in
Scandinavia. He could work as sub contractor or employed for my company.
[/snip]

I don't know too many list denizens who live in Scandinavia, so that
severely limits your choices.
[/snap]

I live in Thailand but that didn't stop me from joining the project at a
worldly well known company as a consultant. And now we are looking for more
guys as the project is growing...
Eh? You're the one saying they must live in Scandanavia and work in-house, not Jay... 

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On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 18:43 +1100, Chris wrote:
> Peter Lauri wrote:
> > [snap]
> > [snip]
> > He would need to work in-house. And the location is somewhere in
> > Scandinavia. He could work as sub contractor or employed for my company.
> > [/snip]
> > 
> > I don't know too many list denizens who live in Scandinavia, so that
> > severely limits your choices.
> > [/snap]
> > 
> > I live in Thailand but that didn't stop me from joining the project at a
> > worldly well known company as a consultant. And now we are looking for more
> > guys as the project is growing...
> 
> Eh? You're the one saying they must live in Scandanavia and work 
> in-house, not Jay...

But he's also saying that relocating to Scandinavia didn't stop him. So
if it didn't stop him, quite likely it won't stop others. And so others
may also be happy to relocate to Scandinavia. Some people jump at the
opportunity to visit the world -- the usually don't have children :)

Cheers,
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[snippidge]
[snap]
[snip]
He would need to work in-house. And the location is somewhere in
Scandinavia. He could work as sub contractor or employed for my company.
[/snip]

I don't know too many list denizens who live in Scandinavia, so that
severely limits your choices.
[/snap]

I live in Thailand but that didn't stop me from joining the project at a
worldly well known company as a consultant. And now we are looking for
more
guys as the project is growing...
{/snippidge]

No doubt, but the originally requirement says "work in-house. And the
location s somewhere in Scandinavia."

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Hello

My name is Lara Thynne and I am a PhD candidate at Deakin University
Australia.

I am currently running a survey at the following address.

https://dcarf.deakin.edu.au/surveys/oss/

The survey is completely confidential and looks at your views and
motivations to use Open Source software and to participate in the
community.

It will only take a few minutes and your contact details will not be
recorded. You can withdraw your participation at any stage.

I sincerely apologize for the spammish nature of this e-mail - I
don't mean to abuse this list.  I am trying to collect responses
from as many open source developers and users as possible and a
mailing list like this is probably the best way to reach many of you.

Please personally CC me with any questions/comments posted to the
list in response.

Thanks again

Lara

P.S The program that I am using is open source, of course
(www.phpsurveyor.org)!

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2007. 02. 27, kedd keltezéssel 14.15-kor tedd ezt írta:
> Németh:

(call me Zoltán please as that's my first name ;) )

> 
> As you  know, I'm having more problems with my 
> CAPTCHA experiment, so back to basics. (as my mum 
> used to say "No good deed goes unpunished."
> 
> I need your review. All you have to do is to test 
> if the following links produce sound as indicated 
> in the browsers you have?
> 
> Link one:
> 
> http://www.sperling.com/a/a1/index.php
> 
> Clicking "Zero" should produce the sound "Zero" 
> and leave your browser cold -- it will probably 
> leave it showing a player of some sort.

XP/IE7: opens up windows media player, plays 0.au which says "Zero"
Linux/Firefox: opens 0.au with /usr/lib/mime/playaudio, sound is only
noise

> 
> Link two:
> 
> http://www.sperling.com/a/a1/index1.php
> 
> Clicking "Zero" should produce the sound "Zero" 
> and then bring your browser back to the original 
> page.

XP/IE7: works fine
Linux/Firefox: tells me I have to install some plugin, then redirects to
the original page

> 
> Link three:
> 
> http://www.sperling.com/a/a1/index2.php
> 
> Clicking "Zero" should produce the sound "Zero" 
> and then "One" and then bring your browser back 
> to the original page.

XP/IE7: works fine
Linux/Firefox: redirects ok, but needs plugin as above


it's probably an issue that it needs plugin to play .au files, I am not
an expert in browser audio ;)
if so, please tell me what plugin to install and I can try again with
that

hope that helps
Zoltán Németh

> 
> For me, all the above sounds work, except for 
> Opera 9.0 for the Mac -- it works for "Link one" 
> but does not work for "Link two" and "Link three".
> 
> IE 5.2 for the Mac needs a refresh to jump start 
> it. In other words, the very first time for "link 
> two" and "link three" I have to do it twice to 
> get it to work.
> 
> Take your time -- no rush on this. I just need to 
> know what browsers work and which don't.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> tedd

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# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-02-27 20:38:37 -0800:
> Does anyone know where I could find PHP Documentation in XML or in an SQL 
> dump?

In the source repository.  http://www.php.net/anoncvs.php

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M5 wrote:
> No, it's not a very good solution. Striptags will leave everything
> within <head>, <style> and <script> (in the body or out). Comments are
> also included.
> 
> I know it's possible to use non reg-ex strpos/substr to extra everything
> within <body>, but as another poster correctly said, this assumes a
> consistent HTML document (which there is not).
> 
> I realize now that such a regex would be rather sophisticated, but I
> thought surely it must exist, since text-scrapping the readable content
> of a web page must not be rare.

Said it before, but low-tech solution is to use program "lynx" with the
-dump argument and capture the output back to PHP. I'm assuming you are
on Linux or OSX I guess as I've not heard of using lynx on windows.....

There are loads of command line options to control the way lynx displays
the output so you have a very fine grain of control here.

Col

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OK. Blank entries means that as date is passed in and validated via forms,
it is then entered into $_SESSION so data can be persistent as the user goes
back and forth. These values are eventually entered into the database and
are blank, whereas the few values that are entered from $_POST (ie credit
card numbers that I don't want to carry around in the session) are fine.

The system works in IE7, FF and Opera and has also worked on my local
version of IE6. I have created a session name and send the
Cache-control:private header, which fixed similar issues in the past, but no
success in this case.







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Hi,

I'm building an CMS system (for practice and experience :)).

And of course like many times before I have encountered a problem.

The problem is:
I have a index.php that takes the news from the database and publishes them. And by the end of every news on index.php I have a link ('<a href="showfullnews.php?id=$id">Show full news</a>') 

That leads to a page that has the full news.

At the beginning of showfullnews i have a variable ( $id = $_GET['id']; )

And in index.php I have the following code:

while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result))
{
        $id= $row['id'];
etc...
}
In the database I have two tables one for a short version of news for index.php and another for fullNews.
In full news the query is: "select title,newsFull from fullnews where id='$id'"; 

In the database i'm 100% sure there is a id = 1 in both rows.

I really dont know what is the problem.

Thank you very much!

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2007. 02. 28, szerda keltezéssel 10.24-kor Delta Storm ezt írta:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm building an CMS system (for practice and experience :)).
> 
> And of course like many times before I have encountered a problem.
> 
> The problem is:
> 
> I have a index.php that takes the news from the database and publishes 
> them. And by the end of every news on index.php I have a link ('<a 
> href="showfullnews.php?id=$id">Show full news</a>')
> 
> That leads to a page that has the full news.
> 
> At the beginning of showfullnews i have a variable ( $id = $_GET['id']; )
> 
> And in index.php I have the following code:
> 
> while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result))
> {
>       $id= $row['id'];
> etc...
> }
> 
> In the database I have two tables one for a short version of news for 
> index.php and another for fullNews.
> 
> In full news the query is: "select title,newsFull from fullnews where 
> id='$id'";
> 
> In the database i'm 100% sure there is a id = 1 in both rows.
> 
> I really dont know what is the problem.

ehh, what is the problem? you didn't tell.
I guess that the fullnews page don't display the news correctly, right?
if so, please show us the code of that page

btw, why are you using two tables?
everything could be put in one with fields like title,shorttext,fulltext
and so on...
and then there would be only one id for one article, which could reduce
confusion and eliminate some possible problems

hope that helps
Zoltán Németh

> Thank you very much!
>

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At 10:24 AM +0100 2/28/07, Delta Storm wrote:

The problem is:
I have a index.php that takes the news from the database and publishes them. And by the end of every news on index.php I have a link ('<a href="showfullnews.php?id=$id">Show full news</a>') 

Yep, that may be the problem -- try:

<a href="showfullnews.php?id=<?php echo($id);?>">Show full news</a>

Cheers,

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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Delta Storm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Envoyé : mercredi 28 février 2007 10:24
> À : [email protected]
> Objet : [PHP] ID problem
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm building an CMS system (for practice and experience :)).
> 
> And of course like many times before I have encountered a problem.
> 
> The problem is:
> 
> I have a index.php that takes the news from the database and 
> publishes them. And by the end of every news on index.php I 
> have a link ('<a href="showfullnews.php?id=$id">Show full news</a>')
> 
> That leads to a page that has the full news.
> 
> At the beginning of showfullnews i have a variable ( $id = 
> $_GET['id']; )
> 
> And in index.php I have the following code:
> 
> while ($row = mysql_fetch_array($result)) {
>       $id= $row['id'];
> etc...
> }
> 
> In the database I have two tables one for a short version of 
I'd suggest just using one table, and when you display the short version
just display a certain number of characters from the full version say 50
first chars as a preview this is what i use:

        function debut_texte($texte, $nb_cars) {
                $nb_cars = intval($nb_cars);
                if (!$nb_cars || !$texte) return($texte);
                if (strlen ($texte) <= $nb_cars) return($texte);
                $nouveau_texte = substr($texte, 0, $nb_cars-3);
                $nouveau_texte .= '...';
                return ($nouveau_texte);
        }

Sorry its in french, essentialy you pass it your text ($texte) and the
number of characters ($nb_cars) of that text you want to and it returns the
$nb_cars first characters and appends "..." to the end of the text.. This
will save you some confusion by using two tables for the same data...

> news for index.php and another for fullNews.
> 
> In full news the query is: "select title,newsFull from 
> fullnews where id='$id'";
> 
> In the database i'm 100% sure there is a id = 1 in both rows.
> 
> I really dont know what is the problem.

Erm me neither.. Need more code to see problem.

> Thank you very much!
> 
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : tedd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Envoyé : mercredi 28 février 2007 15:54
> À : Delta Storm; [email protected]
> Objet : Re: [PHP] ID problem
> 
> At 10:24 AM +0100 2/28/07, Delta Storm wrote:
> >The problem is:
> >
> >I have a index.php that takes the news from the database and 
> publishes 
> >them. And by the end of every news on index.php I have a link ('<a 
> >href="showfullnews.php?id=$id">Show full news</a>')
Is this possibly a quote issue?

 echo '<a href="showfullnews.php?id=$id">Show full news</a>';

Will not evaluate $id

Whereas echo '<a href="showfullnews.php?id=' . $id . '">Show full news</a>';


Will evaluate $id..

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "james james" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] destructor sequence explained



On Tue, February 27, 2007 6:11 pm, james james wrote:

Can someone please help explain how the order of object destructors
called
at shutdown is determined, especially with regards to objects composed
of other objects?


I think that changed from version to version, so unless you are on a
dedicated server, you have to manage any order dependencies for
yourself...

I do not think there *IS* a documented ordering to this.
Actually, I think it is documented that the order of the destructors cannot be predicted. This means that even if you find how it is done in this particular version, don't count on that to hold if in a newer version they change it. By stating that it cannot be predicted, the developers reserve the right to change it at any time.
When an object is deleted, it is put in the list of things to be dispossed of, and the garbage collector will call the destructors prior to deallocating the memory. It can happen at any time when there is no higher priority stuff to be done. So, it all depends on the whim of the garbage collector, a background item that the developers might change at any time and whose behaviour depends on lots of unpredictable things such as server load. 


You get whatever order PHP feels like using.


exactly

Satyam



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Ryan wrote:
> Richard et al.,
> 
> You are right, the variable was not being provided for the apache
> server. Essentially I found the answer here....
> 
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/misc/FAQ-F.html#remote-user-var
> 
> The document has to be protected in order for apache create the
> REMOTE_USER variable. This was an apache subtlety I didn't know about.
> As soon as I protected it with an .htaccess file, it worked fine and
> the user showed up in this variable.

there is possibly another way by using the Rewrite engine to explicitly
set ENV variables based on apache interal, something like this:

RewriteEngine   On
RewriteRule     ^.*$            -       [C,E=VHOSTS_ROOT:/var/www/vhosts]


the above rule ends up providing $_SERVER['VHOSTS_ROOT'] in your script,
a little contrived but you can also do stuff like:

RewriteRule     ^.*$            -       [C,E=THING:%{REMOTE_USER}]

the 'C' make the rule chained so that you can include it alongside existing
rules transparently.


> 
> $_SERVER['REMOTE_USER']
> 
> Thanks,
> Ryan
> 
> 
> On 2/27/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Use <?php phpinfo();?> and see what *IS* there.
>>
>> If what you want isn't there, then the web server didn't provide it.
>>
>> If the web server didn't provide it, PHP can't be blamed for not
>> passing it on to you, which is *ALL* PHP does here.
>>
>> So what you have is a web-server configuration issue in that case.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, February 26, 2007 11:18 am, Ryan wrote:
>> > Tried that ($PHP_AUTH_USER) and it is also empty.
>> >
>> > On 2/24/07, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> try echo $PHP_AUTH_USER;
> 
> Ryan wrote:
>> Richard,
> 
>> I looked at phpinfo() as you said, same thing...
> 
>> _SERVER["REMOTE_USER"]    no value
> 
>> You may be right, this may not be available, but I don't want to
> keep
>> throwing a login screen in front of users for no apparent reason.
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ryan
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/23/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, February 21, 2007 1:01 pm, Ryan wrote:
>>> > I'm new to php and I have am running php on apache. I already
> have
>>> > ldap
>>> > authentication set up in apache would rather not create a
> separate
>>> > system
>>> > for php. What would be ideal would be to get the current
> authenticated
>>> > user
>>> > from the apache environment. At this point I'm grabbing at
> straws, but
>>> > so
>>> > far I've tried....
>>> >
>>> > $ret = apache_getenv("LDAP_USER");
>>> > echo $ret;
>>> > echo $_SERVER['REMOTE_USER'];
>>> > echo $_SERVER['PHP_AUTH_DIGEST'];
>>> > $ret = apache_getenv('PHP_AUTH_DIGEST');
>>> >
>>> > None of these work. Has anyone done this??
>>>
>>> If the answer you are seeking isn't available in:
>>> <?php phpinfo();?>
>>> run on the page where you are trying to do this, then you
> probably
>>> can't get the answer you want.
>>>
>>> Running http://php.net/ldap to re-connect and re-authenticate
> will
>>> probably be fairly cheap, since LDAP is supposed to be pretty
> dang
>>> fast in the first place, and whatever caching is going on for the
> LDAP
>>> or OS calls behind LDAP virtually guarantees that the data you
> want is
>>> in RAM.
>>>
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>>> Know what I want?
>>> I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist.
>>> http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch
>>> Yeah, I get a buck. So?
>>>
>>>
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StainOnRug wrote:
> Hello I am a beginner at PHP. I searched for my ? but couldn’t pinpoint it..
> My question is,  How do I upload include files onto my website include
> directory. Im hosted through Yahoo, I am not running a server on my
> computer. When I check out my PHP info it tells me the include dir is
> include path .:/include:/usr/lib/php.. how do I acess this folder to put
> files in it so that I can take advantage of the include functions on my PHP
> scripts. Thank you sooo much!

you can change the include_path definition in your script. you can also include
files which live in other directories than those defined in the include_path 
ini setting.

I doubt you are allowed to upload any files to /include or /usr/lib/php, so your
recourse is to create your 'include' directory somewhere where you can upload 
stuff
to and then optionally redefine include_path to point to your personal 
'include' dir,
something like:

ini_set('include_path', 
ini_get('include_path').':/path/to/your/personal/inc/dir');

see also Peter's comments in his reply to your post.

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--- Begin Message --- The following issues are not really PHP issues, but more properly FTP server issues, but perhaps people on the list have some ideas on how to solve my problems.
I've written a PHP program to "mirror" data on a local drive to a remote FTP server. It compares file mod times, and only uploads files that are newer. Works like a charm. Except ---
The remote FTP server is running on a Fedora LINUX system, but I think any server would present the same issues.
To examine the remote directories, I use ftp_rawlist() to get a directory listing which I parse. However, the file modification time does not have a year, and does not show the seconds. I get around this by "assuming" the year is the current one, and then compare the file times of the local and remote files ignoring local file seconds. If they are different, I use ftp_mdtm() to get the real remote time, and then do my compare. This slows things down a bit, as I have to go to the FTP server one more time.
Any thoughts on how to get around this? Is there a way to get a better directory listing?
Second and more serious problem is that when I FTP the file to the server, the file mod time gets set to the current (file-creation) time. The same thing happens in a local-to-local file copy using copy(), but I can use touch() to update the mod time.
Any thoughts on how I might get the remote FTP server to do the equivalent of touch()?
I realize that these are not actual PHP problems, but maybe one of you has run across similar issues. 

Many thanks.

Larry Bradley
Orleans (Ottawa), Ontario, CANADA
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is your 'local system' linux? then the totally non answer is probably
that you should be using rsync.

if it's a windows machine you can probably still use rsync there by running
it on top of cygwin.

I would also recommend tunnelling the rsync traffic through an SSH connection.

Larry Bradley wrote:
> The following issues are not really PHP issues, but more properly FTP
> server issues, but perhaps people on the list have some ideas on how to
> solve my problems.
> 
> I've written a PHP program to "mirror" data on a local drive to a remote
> FTP server. It compares file mod times, and only uploads files that are
> newer.  Works like a charm. Except ---
> 
> The remote FTP server is running on a Fedora LINUX system, but I think
> any server would present the same issues.
> 
> To examine the remote directories, I use ftp_rawlist() to get a
> directory listing which I parse. However, the file modification time
> does not have a year, and does not show the seconds. I get around this
> by "assuming" the year is the current one, and then compare the file
> times of the local and remote files ignoring local file seconds. If they
> are different, I use ftp_mdtm() to get the real remote time, and then do
> my compare. This slows things down a bit, as I have to go to the FTP
> server one more time.
> 
> Any thoughts on how to get around this? Is there a way to get a better
> directory listing?
> 
> Second and more serious problem is that when I FTP the file to the
> server, the file mod time gets set to the current (file-creation) time.
> The same thing happens in a local-to-local file copy using copy(), but I
> can use touch() to update the mod time.
> 
> Any thoughts on how I might get the remote FTP server to do the
> equivalent of touch()?
> 
> I realize that these are not actual PHP problems, but maybe one of you
> has run across similar issues.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Larry Bradley
> Orleans (Ottawa), Ontario, CANADA

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At 5:28 PM -0600 2/27/07, Richard Lynch wrote:

On Sun, February 25, 2007 9:22 am, tedd wrote:

 > However, I can't do the same with .WAV files. Does anyone know a way

 to combine .WAV files similar to the way shown above?


The first 256 bytes of a .WAV file contains magic numbers indicating
the bit-size (16-bit, 8-bit, whatever) and sampling rate (44.1 kHz,
22.05 kHz, 96kHz, etc) and imaging (stereo, mono, and I think maybe
others) as well as the total number of samples (I.e., file length).

There are also some slots for things like copyright, comments etc, as
I recall.

You're going to have to find specs on that header info, read the first
256 bytes of each file, compute new numbers to put into the .wav
header, and write out the new 256 bytes and then the remainders of the
two files.

If the two files are NOT both the same bit/sample rate, then you'd
have some REAL fun trying to scale/re-sample the actual audio... :-)

You may find it easier/faster to just locate a .wav splicer command
line tool and run exec with it.  Though perhaps not nearly as fun,
depending on your definition of fun.
I'm not sure I can or need to run exec, nor do I actually know how. I'll deal with that later in my life.
For the moment, I can use a HEX Editor and inspect the first 256 bytes of a wav file and find out all the goodies therein, but do you know if I strip out the first 256 bytes can I then combine the files so they will work (providing the sample rates, frequencies, and such as the same)? 

Thanks for your help.

tedd

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tedd wrote:
> I'm not sure I can or need to run exec, nor do I actually know how. I'll
> deal with that later in my life.

Go on, it's easy!

http://uk2.php.net/manual/en/function.exec.php

That said, depending on your hosting, you may be banned from exec.


> For the moment, I can use a HEX Editor and inspect the first 256 bytes
> of a wav file and find out all the goodies therein, but do you know if I
> strip out the first 256 bytes can I then combine the files so they will
> work (providing the sample rates, frequencies, and such as the same)?

No need for a hex editor...

1) Take all your .wav files and use sox on command line (or another tool
if you prefer) to convert them all to RAW PCM files (e.g. no header).

2) Take the filesize of the WAV and subtract the filesize of the RAW
PCM. The value you have left is the size of the WAV header, so take the
first n bytes of one of your WAVs and save it to e.g. "wav.hdr". Double
check with your hex editor as I'm not 100% sure about this (OK, you do
need it after all :p)

3) In theory to create the full wav you just concatenate the wav.hdr +
the correct combination of your letters/numbers RAW PCM files.

4) You should be left with a proper, valid .wav file (I think).

Not really sure of the above but I think it's all true!!

Take care.

Col.

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At 5:12 PM -0600 2/27/07, Richard Lynch wrote:

Personally, I think your first mistake was putting the image into the
DB at all.

Unless you're the CIA doing pixel comparisons actually in SQL stored
procedures or something. :-)


Richard:
I highly respect your opinion and on this list you provide tremendous help -- however -- I must disagree with you about storing images in dB's. Both techniques (using dB or the file system) have their up-sides and down-sides and neither have anything to do about CIA pixel comparisons?
This idea of CIA pixel comparisons has been brought up before and it's pointless. There is no way for anyone to do a pixel search in MySQL. Images are not text and thus can't be subject to a "full text" like search. There are no functions in MySQL that will permit pixel searches AND that isn't important anyway -- not everything stored in a dB has to be search-able. That's not a requirement for entry!
When someone uses a dB for storing images, that's what they are doing -- storing. I never store images without other data, like image type, size, description and such. So, why would I want to separate out that single attribute from a record and store that in a remote file system when I could just as easily store it in a dB? It's like saying "Never use css to display an image, only use html" when both work well under different needs.
Furthermore, I have yet to talk with a single MySQL expert nor read a single MySQL book that claims what you claim. Could you be mistaken? Perhaps you might rethink your position. You know, we all learn -- I do everyday. 

Cheers,

tedd

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Dear all,

How to config the default Character Set and Collation with big5 ?

Edward.

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    Why still use Big5, this pre-historical encoding?  Come on, we're in
the 21st century.  You should use Unicode!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> How to config the default Character Set and Collation with big5 ?
>
> Edward.
>



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www.zoner.com/zps
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Seak, Teng-Fong wrote:

>    Why still use Big5, this pre-historical encoding?  Come on, we're in
>the 21st century.  You should use Unicode!
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>How to config the default Character Set and Collation with big5 ?
>>
>>Edward.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>----------
>* Zoner PhotoStudio 8 - Your Photos perfect, shared, organised! 
>www.zoner.com/zps
>  You can download your free version.
>
>  
>
Hello,

Due to some of DB data still stored with big5...

Edward.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Seak, Teng-Fong wrote:
>>     Why still use Big5, this pre-historical encoding?  Come on, we're in
>> the 21st century.  You should use Unicode!
>>   
> Hello,
>
> Due to some of DB data still stored with big5...
>
> Edward.
    You could export your data out of your DB, convert them to Unicode
(normally in UTF-8), then import them into the DB.

    This might, at first glance, be overkilling and useless.  But in
long term, you'll be rid of a lot of problems due to encoding
conversions and support to old encodings.

    And there's an even stronger argument for you in case the previous
one can't convince you.  Big-5 only supports traditional Chinese
characters.  As Macao is a part of China, and people tend to use
simplified Chinese more and more, you'll sooner or later confront the
problem of not being able to support simplified Chinese.  Unicode, on
the other hand, supports traditional as well as simplified Chinese (and
a lot a lot other languages, but you're not concerned in this matter). 
Unicode is really the way to go in long term.



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On Wed, February 28, 2007 8:52 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> How to config the default Character Set and Collation with big5 ?

Web page:
http://php.net/header and charset on Content-type
Plus you need it in META HTTP-EQUIV tag for IE and off-line saved HTML.

MySQL:
SET CHARACTER SET 'big5'
or something like that
More info at http://dev.mysql.com

-- 
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Know what I want?
I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist.
http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch
Yeah, I get a buck. So?

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--- Begin Message --- I am writing a PHP file that outputs a PDF file that will have a bunch of data from the data base. After the ammount of data hits 24 pieces(23 with 0) i need it to go to a new page. I am using the PDFB Library which contains a custom barcode thing, FPDI+FPDF. 

Thank's for your help in advance, Eddie

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Hi there. I'm hoping someone can help me with what I think might be a slightly obscure problem.
I'm trying to get the SimpleXML extension to read an XML file and process the XInclude statements within the XML file.
The SimpleXML docs state that libxml options may be specified using the predefined constants that are available when PHP is compiled with libxml support (as it is when you use SimpleXML). 
http://uk2.php.net/manual/en/function.simplexml-element-construct.php
So, looking at the libxml options, I see there is a predefined constant LIBXML_XINCLUDE which when specified should implement XInclude substitution. So my SimpleXML object I define as follows: 

  $xml_file = './master.xml';

  $xml = new SimpleXMLElement($xml_file, LIBXML_XINCLUDE, true);

  print_r($xml);
Viewing the resulting datastructure shows me that it has not honoured the request to implement the XInclude directives.
Does anyone know if a) I'm using the correct syntax for this, and b) have any experience of getting this working. 

My master.xml file looks like this:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<root xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude";>
  <foo>ssd</foo>
  <bar>sss</bar>
  <xi:include href="a.xml">
    <xi:fallback>
      <error>xinclude - a.xml not found</error>
    </xi:fallback>
  </xi:include>
</root>

and then I have a.xml which looks like:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<a_root>
  <oranges>test</oranges>
  <apples>test more</apples>
</a_root>

I'm running PHP 5.1.5 with libxml 2.6.20 on Fedora Core 4 linux.

Cheers

Ben

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