php-general Digest 17 Jul 2009 08:29:19 -0000 Issue 6234
Topics (messages 295485 through 295511):
Re: Syntax Snag need extra eyes
295485 by: Jim Lucas
Re: Case Conversion of US Person Names
295486 by: Jônatas Zechim
295487 by: phphelp -- kbk
295500 by: phphelp -- kbk
dictionary/spell check...
295488 by: Dan Joseph
295491 by: Robert Cummings
295495 by: Dan Joseph
Invalid Argument why?
295489 by: Miller, Terion
295490 by: Ashley Sheridan
295492 by: Kyle Smith
295496 by: Martin Scotta
Re: Invalid Argument why? (RESOLVED)
295493 by: Miller, Terion
Re: Sub Menu System?
295494 by: Daevid Vincent
295511 by: David Robley
Re: Add php.net to my browser search box
295497 by: Michelle Konzack
295504 by: Eric Butera
295505 by: Daniel Brown
Characters causing problems in search strings?
295498 by: Miller, Terion
Internal PHP caching methodology
295499 by: Daniel Kolbo
295501 by: Phpster
295503 by: Eric Butera
Re: [HEADSUP] rsync going temporarily down
295502 by: Daniel Brown
295506 by: José Miguel Santibáñez A.
295508 by: Derick Rethans
Re: php.net down?
295507 by: Daniel Kolbo
295509 by: Michael A. Peters
295510 by: Daniel Brown
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Bastien Koert wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Andrew Ballard<aball...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Jim Lucas <li...@cmsws.com> wrote:
>>> Andrew Ballard wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Jim Lucas <li...@cmsws.com> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>>> Also, this is the wrong way to use printf(). Please go read the manual
>>>>> page for this function.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try:
>>>>>
>>>>> printf(
>>>>> '<a href="view.php?name=%s"><b>%s</b><br />%s<br /><br /></a>',
>>>>> $row['name'],
>>>>> $row['name'],
>>>>> $row['address']
>>>>> );
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the correct way to use printf()
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I like this, just because I don't need to repeat $row['name'] (but it is
>>>> the
>>>> same thing):
>>>>
>>>> printf(
>>>> '<a href="view.php?name=%1$s"><b>%1$s</b><br />%2$s<br /><br
>>>> /></a>',
>>>> $row['name'],
>>>> $row['address']
>>>> );
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was wondering if that was possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tip.
>>>
>>> Jim Lucas
>>>
>> That's what I like about this list. I wasn't totally sure it would
>> work myself, but I was pretty sure it would, and this was another one
>> of those posts that provided just enough prompting for me to actually
>> pop the code into Zend Studio where I could test it pretty quickly.
>> :-)
>>
>> Andrew
>>
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>
> another option is to wrap the array elements in curly braces
>
> printf('<a
> href="view.php?name={$row['name']}"><b>%s</b><br>%s</br><br></a>',$row['name']
> ,$row['address']);
>
No, that won't work. The string that it is in, was created using single
quotes. Therefor the array reference will never be looked at. It will
simply print the actuall string, not the value associated to the array
reference.
Jim Lucas
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U can try this:
function fNme($n){
$tN=count($n=explode(' ',strtolower($n)));
$nR='';
for($i=0;$i<$tN;$i++){if($i==0){$nR.=strlen($n[$i])>3?ucwords($n[$i]):$n[$i]
;}else{$nR.=strlen($n[$i])>3?' '.ucwords($n[$i]):' '.$n[$i];}}
return $nR;
}
echo fNme('aaaaa aaa aaaaaa aa aaaa');
And also make an array inside this function for exceptions like 'vander' or
other words which the srtlen is > 3.
Zechim
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De: phphelp -- kbk [mailto:phph...@comcast.net]
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de julho de 2009 15:00
Para: PHP General List
Assunto: [PHP] Case Conversion of US Person Names
Hi, All -- -- - -
I occasionally find myself in need of a utility to do case conversion
of people's names, especially when I am converting data from an old
to a new system. This is the first such occasion in PHP.
I know about ucwords() and mb_convert_case(). They do not accommodate
names with "middle" capitalization.
Does anybody have such a utility to share, or know of one posted by
someone "out there" that you have used?
I am not looking for perfection -- I know that such is not possible.
I just want to pick off the easy ones -- Mc, Mac, O', de, de la, van,
vander, van der, d' and others like that. I see some novel attempts
to do parts of this on the PHP ucwords() "User Notes" area, but I bet
someone out there has something more comprehensive. I'd rather not
"roll my own" as I have done in other languages.
I have Googled without success.
Many thanks,
Ken
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On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Jônatas Zechim wrote:
U can try this:
function fNme($n){
$tN=count($n=explode(' ',strtolower($n)));
$nR='';
for($i=0;$i<$tN;$i++){if($i==0){$nR.=strlen($n[$i])>3?ucwords($n
[$i]):$n[$i]
;}else{$nR.=strlen($n[$i])>3?' '.ucwords($n[$i]):' '.$n[$i];}}
return $nR;
}
echo fNme('aaaaa aaa aaaaaa aa aaaa');
And also make an array inside this function for exceptions like
'vander' or
other words which the srtlen is > 3.
Thank you. If I "roll my own" function, that could be useful.
I'd still rather find one that exists, though.
Ken
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On Jul 16, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Leonard Burton wrote:
Try this class here: http://code.google.com/p/lastname/
Oooooo! That looks *very* interesting. Thank you.
Have you tried it?
Ken
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Hi Everyone,
This is slightly off topic... We're building an application, and have a
need for an opensource dictionary. Basically a way to match words against a
dictionary to see if they are valid, and what type of word they are. noun,
adv, etc..
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Yes.. I did google already...
--
-Dan Joseph
www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month.
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Aspell.
Dan Joseph wrote:
Hi Everyone,
This is slightly off topic... We're building an application, and have a
need for an opensource dictionary. Basically a way to match words against a
dictionary to see if they are valid, and what type of word they are. noun,
adv, etc..
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Yes.. I did google already...
--
http://www.interjinn.com
Application and Templating Framework for PHP
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Robert Cummings <rob...@interjinn.com>wrote:
> Aspell.
>
>> Can anyone point me in the right direction? Yes.. I did google already...
>>
>>
>>
Thanks!
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www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month.
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Why is this an invalid argument?
foreach(($row['inType']) as $inType){
echo $inType,'<br>';}
I am trying to output results from a data base that may have multiple
results for the same name....
So trying to use an array and foreach that is the right track ...right?
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On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 15:41 -0400, Miller, Terion wrote:
> Why is this an invalid argument?
>
> foreach(($row['inType']) as $inType){
>
> echo $inType,'<br>';}
>
> I am trying to output results from a data base that may have multiple
> results for the same name....
>
> So trying to use an array and foreach that is the right track ...right?
>
>
I imagine $row is the array, and ['inType'] is an element of the array.
This is not how you use a foreach. Can you show where you are getting
$row from?
Thanks
Ash
www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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Miller, Terion wrote:
Why is this an invalid argument?
foreach(($row['inType']) as $inType){
echo $inType,'<br>';}
I am trying to output results from a data base that may have multiple
results for the same name....
So trying to use an array and foreach that is the right track ...right?
Looks like you meant to do something like this:
// Always better to be plural when you have an array.
$rows = whatever_your_rows_come_from();
foreach($rows as $row)
{
$inType = $row['inType'];
echo $inType . '<br />';
}
HTH,
Kyle
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foreach iterates over an array or a object (see Traversable ).
If you pass anything different he complains
<?php
if( !is_scalar( $collection ) )
foreach( $collection as $element )
print_r( $element );
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Kyle Smith <kyle.sm...@inforonics.com>wrote:
> Miller, Terion wrote:
>
>> Why is this an invalid argument?
>>
>> foreach(($row['inType']) as $inType){
>>
>> echo $inType,'<br>';}
>>
>> I am trying to output results from a data base that may have multiple
>> results for the same name....
>>
>> So trying to use an array and foreach that is the right track ...right?
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Looks like you meant to do something like this:
>
> // Always better to be plural when you have an array.
> $rows = whatever_your_rows_come_from();
>
> foreach($rows as $row)
> {
> $inType = $row['inType'];
> echo $inType . '<br />';
> }
>
>
> HTH,
> Kyle
>
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Actually this ended up doing what I needed:
$result =
mysql_query($sql) or die(mysql_error());
$header = false;
while($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($result)){
if(!$header){
echo ($row['name']),'<br>';
echo
($row['address']),'<br>';
$header = true;
}
echo ($row['inDate']),'<br>';
echo ($row['inType']),'<br>';
echo ($row['notes']),'<br>';
echo ($row['critical']),'<br>' ;
echo
($row['cviolations']),'<br>';
} }
On 7/16/09 2:53 PM, "Kyle Smith" <kyle.sm...@inforonics.com> wrote:
Miller, Terion wrote:
Why is this an invalid argument?
foreach(($row['inType']) as $inType){
echo $inType,'<br>';}
I am trying to output results from a data base that may have multiple
results for the same name....
So trying to use an array and foreach that is the right track ...right?
Looks like you meant to do something like this:
// Always better to be plural when you have an array.
$rows = whatever_your_rows_come_from();
foreach($rows as $row)
{
$inType = $row['inType'];
echo $inType . '<br />';
}
HTH,
Kyle
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There are a plethora of solutions to do this type of navigation. All of them
free. They usually use an <UL> and <LI> sections and CSS. You should look
into jQuery as it has some of this built in too I believe. Lastly, consider
using an array to build your menu with, then you can filter and do
authentication and such by simply ripping out array elements (and checking
the viewed page against the list)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Stoltz [mailto:dsto...@shh.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:55 AM
> To: php-gene...@lists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP] Sub Menu System?
>
> Folks,
>
> I'm developing a rather large site in PHP. The main horizontal nav bar
> never changes, no matter how deep you are in the site. However, on the
> left side is a vertical "sub-menu" system. This menu is
> proving to be a
> real pain to program. I have it limited the menu system to 3 levels:
>
> MAIN:
> |___Secondary pages
> |___Tertiary pages
>
> For each level, and each folder, I have a file called
> subnav.php, which
> contains the links for that page. It has its own code to determine the
> page it's on, and highlight the appropriate menu item.
>
> The problem is when I need to move pages, or add pages, it's
> proving to
> be a REAL PAIN to maintain this type of structure.
>
> Does anyone know of any off-the-shelf product that can
> create/maintain a
> sub-menu system like this?
>
> I don't mind starting over at this point, but I'm hoping there is
> something I can just purchase, so I can concentrate on the rest of the
> site....hopefully the menu system would support PHP and ASP.
>
> Thanks for any information!
>
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David Stoltz wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I'm developing a rather large site in PHP. The main horizontal nav bar
> never changes, no matter how deep you are in the site. However, on the
> left side is a vertical "sub-menu" system. This menu is proving to be a
> real pain to program. I have it limited the menu system to 3 levels:
>
> MAIN:
> |___Secondary pages
> |___Tertiary pages
>
> For each level, and each folder, I have a file called subnav.php, which
> contains the links for that page. It has its own code to determine the
> page it's on, and highlight the appropriate menu item.
>
> The problem is when I need to move pages, or add pages, it's proving to
> be a REAL PAIN to maintain this type of structure.
>
> Does anyone know of any off-the-shelf product that can create/maintain a
> sub-menu system like this?
>
> I don't mind starting over at this point, but I'm hoping there is
> something I can just purchase, so I can concentrate on the rest of the
> site....hopefully the menu system would support PHP and ASP.
>
> Thanks for any information!
I know your pain :-) I can't point you to a bolt on solution, but what you
probably want is a tree structure of some sort. Have a read of
http://www.sitepoint.com/print/hierarchical-data-database/ for the
concepts; scroll down to Modified Preorder Tree Traversal.
There seem to be a few nested set classes out there to manage this sort of
structure, e.g. http://www.edutech.ch/contribution/nstrees/index.php or
search on "nested trees".
Cheers
--
David Robley
A mind is a terrible thing to ... er ... hmmmm?
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Good evening Daniel,
thank you for the link... I was searching such tool...
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant
Am 2009-07-16 12:09:07, schrieb Daniel Brown:
> I had written one about two and a half years ago. It's the
> dumbest, simplest thing, and yet it's now been downloaded over 30,000
> times. Nuts.
>
> If you want to use it, or just use the model as a frame to build
> your own, check it out:
>
> http://isawit.com/php_search.php
>
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Daniel Brown<danbr...@php.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:59, Martin Scotta<martinsco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I'd like to add php.net to my browser search box.
>> Most browser can do it by "looking" at some XML provided by the site.
>
> I had written one about two and a half years ago. It's the
> dumbest, simplest thing, and yet it's now been downloaded over 30,000
> times. Nuts.
>
> If you want to use it, or just use the model as a frame to build
> your own, check it out:
>
> http://isawit.com/php_search.php
>
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Interesting content on that site, Dan!
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 20:24, Eric Butera<e...@ericbutera.us> wrote:
>
> Interesting content on that site, Dan!
One of those situations where I bought a domain name with the
intent and desire to do something, and wound up converting it to
personal usage. In this case, doing nothing but putting up random
crap to do a 1995-style throwback site. Ugly, simple, linear.... only
not Netscape Navigator grey and blue. ;-P
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My little browse /search restaurant project is coming along, but I just
noticed that any restaurant with a &, () or # in the name like say for
example Arby's Store #12 ...will not return results... Yet if a name has a /
or a - it's not a problem...
1. why is this and how do and where do I escape those characters on the
query? Or on the insert?
Thanks in Advance
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Hello,
Call me a dreamer...but I got to ask.
Is there any software for helping speed up PHP by utilizing internal PHP
caching?
I am not talking about the external php cache/header control. Smarty
caching doesn't give me the control I need either.
I would like to cache to a finer level than page by page, but rather on
a module by module basis. Each of my pages contains a subset of
modules. The content of these modules changes based upon certain
criteria (link, time, session data, but is sometimes static across the
site). I would like to be able to cache individual "modules"
(preferably based upon frequency and time to generate).
I am trying to develop a way to do this, but I have to think a brighter
mind has come before me and hopefully arrived at a solution.
As always any help/thoughts are much appreciated, except for that one
guy's comments (you all know who I am talking) ~ jk ;)
Thanks,
`
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On Jul 16, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Daniel Kolbo <kolb0...@umn.edu> wrote:
Hello,
Call me a dreamer...but I got to ask.
Is there any software for helping speed up PHP by utilizing internal
PHP
caching?
I am not talking about the external php cache/header control. Smarty
caching doesn't give me the control I need either.
I would like to cache to a finer level than page by page, but rather
on
a module by module basis. Each of my pages contains a subset of
modules. The content of these modules changes based upon certain
criteria (link, time, session data, but is sometimes static across the
site). I would like to be able to cache individual "modules"
(preferably based upon frequency and time to generate).
I am trying to develop a way to do this, but I have to think a
brighter
mind has come before me and hopefully arrived at a solution.
As always any help/thoughts are much appreciated, except for that one
guy's comments (you all know who I am talking) ~ jk ;)
Thanks,
`
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Daniel Kolbo<kolb0...@umn.edu> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Call me a dreamer...but I got to ask.
>
> Is there any software for helping speed up PHP by utilizing internal PHP
> caching?
>
> I am not talking about the external php cache/header control. Smarty
> caching doesn't give me the control I need either.
>
> I would like to cache to a finer level than page by page, but rather on
> a module by module basis. Each of my pages contains a subset of
> modules. The content of these modules changes based upon certain
> criteria (link, time, session data, but is sometimes static across the
> site). I would like to be able to cache individual "modules"
> (preferably based upon frequency and time to generate).
>
> I am trying to develop a way to do this, but I have to think a brighter
> mind has come before me and hopefully arrived at a solution.
>
> As always any help/thoughts are much appreciated, except for that one
> guy's comments (you all know who I am talking) ~ jk ;)
>
> Thanks,
> `
>
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>
Have you actually profiled your code to see where the pain points are
vs saying 'module?' Are you also running an opcode cache? From there
you can use data, block, or full page caching. Finally you can figure
out if you want to store it in flat files or memory. I'd start by
knowing what is actually the slow part using Xdebug and nail a few
down.
There is no end all solution. Some pages really don't have a lot
going on and are hardly updated so full page is fine. Others might
have something that is hard to generate on a sidebar, so block caching
would be more suitable for that. As previously mentioned, Zend_Cache
is up to the task. There is also a PEAR package called Cache_Lite
which would work to if you're interested in file based caching.
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2009/7/16 José Miguel Santibáñez A. <j...@caos.cl>:
>
> Hi, here (http://cl.php.net) we lost all documentation...
>
> I'll try a re-sync manually, but nothing happenes...
Just a heads-up for those of you reading the newsgroup in
real-time and emailing me directly or contacting off the PHP General
list, do not worry: the PHP website is not going down. To answer a
few of the other questions that were actually asked:
* We appreciate the offer, but we do not need a sponsor to buy
the php.net domain back. It is still in our control at this time.
* Our "hosting bills" are not overdue.
* Do not worry, your government has not [yet] cut off access
to the php.net website, but if you still want to download a copy of
the manual, you are welcome to do so.
* You have not been blacklisted for "too many searches."
As you can see, things are returning to normal after a minor and
temporary glitch. Thank you for your concern, and a special thanks to
those who offered assistance when they were concerned that there may
be larger issues.
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>>
>> Hi, here (http://cl.php.net) we lost all documentation...
>>
>> I'll try a re-sync manually, but nothing happenes...
>
> Just a heads-up for those of you reading the newsgroup in
> real-time and emailing me directly or contacting off the PHP General
> list, do not worry: the PHP website is not going down. To answer a
> few of the other questions that were actually asked:
>
(...)
>
> * Do not worry, your government has not [yet] cut off access
> to the php.net website, but if you still want to download a copy of
> the manual, you are welcome to do so.
Ok... We'll wait until documentation be back...
I reviewed some mirrors (www, us) and they are all in the same situation:
no documentation (not online, not download). Except those who have not
been updated today ...
Best regards!
--
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<http://caos.cl>
j...@caos.cl
A programa pirateado no se le miran las fuentes
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2009, José Miguel Santibáñez A. wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi, here (http://cl.php.net) we lost all documentation...
> >>
> >> I'll try a re-sync manually, but nothing happenes...
> >
> > Just a heads-up for those of you reading the newsgroup in
> > real-time and emailing me directly or contacting off the PHP General
> > list, do not worry: the PHP website is not going down. To answer a
> > few of the other questions that were actually asked:
> >
> (...)
> >
> > * Do not worry, your government has not [yet] cut off access
> > to the php.net website, but if you still want to download a copy of
> > the manual, you are welcome to do so.
>
> Ok... We'll wait until documentation be back...
>
> I reviewed some mirrors (www, us) and they are all in the same situation:
> no documentation (not online, not download). Except those who have not
> been updated today ...
"en" is now in the rsync space again, all other languages will follow.
regards,
Derick
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Thijs Lensselink wrote:
> Anybody noticed php.net is down?
>
> It's responding to pings. But no pages load.
>
>
I noticed this
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Daniel Kolbo wrote:
Thijs Lensselink wrote:
Anybody noticed php.net is down?
It's responding to pings. But no pages load.
I noticed this
They probably just have their asp.net module misconfigured.
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 21:55, Michael A. Peters<mpet...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> They probably just have their asp.net module misconfigured.
IIS crashed. We tried to CTRL+ALT+DEL, but it didn't work. We've
been on the phone with Tech Support for nine hours, and hope to be
able to install Service Pack 31 next week.
[Now for the real (canned) response.]
We're aware of the issue, and thanks for your report. For more
information, please see this thread on our newsgroups:
http://news.php.net/php.mirrors/37458
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