Re: [PHP] Stop neurotic posting

[John Manko]

hardly.  I've answered questions on this list that I thought the answer 
could be easily found on google or php.net.  Even more so, there are 
questions on this list that are CLEARLY "this is what I need, can you 
give me code."  That is silly.  What people should be asking is, "I 
can't find the answer to this question, can you point me in the right 
direction."  That doesn't happen, however.  Are you a developer, or 
not?  Learn, figure it out, ask for guidance, but don't ask for someone 
to answer question like "give me code" or "i have this idea, will it 
work, even though i didn't bother to even test or research it."  I'm 
sorry, but I have no pity for the lazy.  There is a difference between 
someone who is new looking for direction to the answer and someone who 
relies on this list to "simply provide it" without them doing any work 
themselves.  So, go ahead and call me an elitist.  That's fine.  I'll 
just continue to Read The Fucking Manual. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

what a silly elitist view you have

 

perhaps there should be two lists (novice and advanced), and the
advanced listed shouldn't
answer questions if it's considered trivial enough for the novice list
to answer.


Curt Zirzow wrote:

   

* Thus wrote andu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

     

This is a very busy list, over 100 message in a quiet day and most
people  are helpful and decent, don't mind reading and learning.
Unfortunately  there are some who mostly post stuff like 'read the
manual' and other shit  like that. Stuffing e-mailboxes with such
garbage day after day doesn't do  anybody any good even if the manual
is  not being read as much as it should
       

Yes it is a busy list, I have 1000+ messages for 7 days worth.

I'm not sure the noisyness of the list is entirely on the ones that are
helping.  There does seem to be a problem of people posting
questions that are plain as day in the manual, or have been
repeatedly answered here on the list (thus the joke, has it been 4 days
already, being so funny :)
if more people would read the manual or know how to find commonly asked
and solved quetions this list would probaly drop in 20% (very rough
estimate) of posts.  Getting that information to the people who arn't
reading the manual is a difficult task, cause if they
arn't reading the manual, why would they even bother with reading the
information on how to find the answer.
Now noisyness from the 'helpers'...  I have noticed at times that a
question is answered the same way like 10 times by 10 different
people; this I consider more noisy than a RTFM post.


     

be. Is it too difficult to not answer the post at all if you disagree
with  the content?
       

Now, I kinda wondered at first if I should not respond to this
cause it's rather in a disagreement tone :)
I think this shouldn't be considered a bad thing to do.  If you
find something you disagree with and have (legit) arguments, I
would insist that the person reply to it. Of course this only helps if
it was in a constructive manor, which I hope this reply was
done.
Cheers,

Curt

     

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