IM not ranting, IM pointing out that I have looked on the website and the FAQ is a joke and help from other sources is either buy something or as the case of IRC, no channel of that description was turned up in the search.
Out of fustration and spending several attempts to implement PHP and IM doubting weather or not its worth all this bother, I cant get the help IM looking for, FAQ has not got my particular issue listed and now I have resorted to direct contact as I cant get any straight answer or link to somewhere that does not sell me something or ask for membership or payment of any kind. The IRC sounded a good deal better but even then the #php channel is not listed, I try to join the #php channel and nothing.... I followed the set up a from the examples in the acompanying documentation which is very sketchy at best and all you state is after install the php.ini file needs putting in the %system root% and configuring... well I did all that, What I want to know is information on what is acceptable info that should be used in the config...nice to say it needs configuring, perhaps you could enlighten me as to all the terms and what they are meant for and what data needs putting into the fields? I also want to know how I know its installed and functioning as I have no idea if its functioning. So IM stuck, fustrated as this is about the 5th time I have tried to tackle the problem over as many months but cant get the information on what I need to do to get it up and running, the FAQ is a joke, more info on LINUX than you can shake a stick at, if you care to look at the site you will see the word LINUX poping up ever few lines or so.....all IM trying to do is set up a messaging board, either Snitz forums or phpBB2, and they both use PHP. It is no good either hi-lighting that 100's of other people have no problem using it, mabey so, but how many 1,000s have had problems and not chased it up? Chances are those users will have grown up and been taught that in school or know people who understand the config of it, IM a lot longer in tooth and have no prior knowledge of PC technology other than what I left school with some 25 years ago, so simply stating a fact like that does not remedy the situation and I dont think you appreciate my position when I say that my knowledge although patchy, I have problems when setups and setup information waffels on about terms and items that have no meaning and have no explanation other than another jargon word or tech term... the basics of setting up operating systems and servers is childs play as is building PCs from scratch but compaired to setting up PHP, it has become a nightmare of biblical proportions. One final thing is if PHP is so easy to set up, why am I having problems? and why is their so little help in the FAQ ? Perhaps you should have an FAQ for newbies, no jargon or tech speak, just information presented in a package that everyone can understand. I really would appreciate some help, as the info IM looking for is not listed in your FAQ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabor Hojtsy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Senshi Oukan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Lack of info > > Been down that road and it got me knowhere, I dont wish to buy information > > or books, I just need to know if its running as well as if its working and > > if the config or rather how the config works... > > > > For an organisation that wants people to use PHP, you sure make things very > > difficult to achieve, why I am so critical of sites like yours. > > > > I will re-iterate once more, I have trawled the site and resources and > > cannot find the answer to my problem anywhere in the site or links you > > provide, plenty of waffel and hot air but no nuts and bolts stuff, if you > > dont know what IM talking about??? IM talking about the info to make it work > > as at the moment it is just occupying hard drive space which I could put to > > better use if this is the level of support that you get from PHP. > > > > So...2nd time around and I hope you read the email before you reply. > > > > Can I have access to the information I need if you have it? You have plenty > > of advice for Linux users, what about us Windows users? Running Linux is not > > an option IM afraid. > > What do you think how much of our users set up PHP on windows and on > linux? See http://php.net/usage, and see yourself that we have a lot of > users around the world. > > Guys working on the PHP engine, extensions, documentation, etc. all do > their work for free, including me. We are not interested in getting > every single person to use PHP. If you find some other solution better > suited for you, then choose that one. The numbers show that there is a > huge number of users finding PHP easy to set up and run, and that we > (and all the sites covering PHP on the net) provide proper support for > what we develop for free and give out for free. > > If you would like to get an answer, ask a question first. But please > forward that to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and take my advice on > omitting rants from that letter, or otherwise you will not receive an > answer. Consider the IRC channels, forums, local user groups, > conferences, books, tutorial sites, windows quick installation kits > linked from our site. > > Goba --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
