Kelly Hallman wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Wouter van Vliet wrote:
>> Point is, which of the inline printing style is preferred by you
>> guyes. I tend to use <?=$Var?> a lot, since it reads easier but get
>> into struggles with myself when I do that multiple times in a row.
>
> Ultimately I think you'd want to be doing very little of any,
> if you're working with more than a basic, one-page script.
>
> Even if you are (gulp) generating your HTML output within
> functions, it seems better to be returning that back to some
> level where there are only a couple of echo/prints necessary..
>
> Think output layer...
>
Yep, that's how I usually think. For projects set up by me I usually put as
many as none logic into the output scripts, and just have them echo some
values. For example, on a news-page I call a function which returns an array
with (non-layout) specific values. And it are those values that make it
their way to <?=$News['Title']?> and stuff like that. Sometimes though, I
find myself in a situation wheren I am merely changing someone else's code
and their approach isn't always (=usually not) like this at all.
But this is not really what the topic is about ;)
Chris Shiflett wrote:
> --- "Chris W. Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I also prefer <?= $variable ?> to <?php echo $variable; ?> except
>> that for the sake of cross-system compatibility* I now choose to do
>> <?php echo $variable; ?>.
>
> I think explicitly using echo is much more readable. While it
> may be obvious to many what <?= does, it is one more little
> thing that might seem like magic to someone else. The less of
> that type of syntax, the better, in my opinion. If you want
> magic syntax, there's Perl. It has a lot of great shortcuts,
> if you're familiar with the syntax. With PHP, most things you
> don't understand are easy to look up. I'd rather search for "echo"
> than "<?=" if I was new to PHP.
I disagree on that. <?php echo $Var; ?> is much longer and causes lines to
wrap and stuff. That is what I find unreadable. Yes, <?=$Var?> looks a bit
like magic, but no more than Harry Potter magic. Not like Gdanalf magic or
anything. If you want Gandalf magic, I can give you some:
<?=($WhoseMagic=='Tolkien'?'Gandalf':'Harry Potter')?>
Still I care more about compactness than the level of "magic". Good
programmers/scripters could read my code, bad ones can't. This is called
natural selection, since bad scripters should stay out of my code. :P:P
>
>> * What I mean by that is if I give my code to someone else I want it
>> to work with as few changes as possible. Some php installs don't have
>> <? ?> turned on (short tags?).
>
> Right, plus I don't think <?php= will work (you might have
> been suggesting this). This was discussed on the internals
> list a year or two ago, and it was voted down.
Too bad, is anything known about maybe implementing a new directive next to
short_open_tags .. Something like short_echo_style, so that you won't be
allowed to open tags the short way, while still being able to echo in short
style. I see them as two different entities.
>
> Chris
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