On 6/10/2004 6:42:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > WTF? > > Who gives a rats ass about this? > > > > Nearly everyone on this list has php related commerical products but > > nobody advertises it here or announces it when they make or update > > their products unless its very closely related to php (and usually > > free), your product does not fall in either category, so kindly take > > your "SQLYog" and shove it up your "yog". > > > > Personally I use PHPMyAdmin which works great, is open source and free > > (donation supported).... > > > > -Ryan > >
Hey Dan, > Ok i'll speak nicely here and i'll be emailing ryan offlist, Why, thank you, very nice of you :-) > why not have > taken that email offlist, noone wants to hear your angst reply man ! Sorry bout that, I generally hit the reply all button, most of the time when I have something to say its ok for the list to read it. > On this topic, i actually have a licence of this mighty find product, it > was good when it was free, the licence is a bitch, but just have to bite > i > guess. My point exactly, if it was free or open source/ very benificial to the php community the announcement wouldnt really be a problem, on this list there are some mighty fine programmers and extremly knowledgeable people (most of who have helped me and scores of others when we started and continue to do so till this day), and most of them have, i'm sure, very good programs for sale but NOBODY comes almost spamming the list with their products. This is a PHP discussion list, if you have a product closely related to php then most people wont mind, eg: PHP accelerators The TURCK MMCache project A good (new?) php obfuscator A php tool that converts code to binary A really good php article to help you program better A great tool to help you program better/faster (contriversial as everyone has their favs) There are a few exceptions like, a couple of days back I asked about a CMS system, I got a few replies and one from James about his CMS system (which is not free, not open source), thats ok because he was trying to help and his product might have been what I was looking for. I also see another product quite often being recomended when the old thread of "is smarty good" or "best templateing package" etc comes along...which too is cool and nobody minds as the software might be what the person was searching for. Another very popular questions are: "how do I do xxxxxxx" or "where can I find a class to do this" or "I want this email functionality" in which case a lot of times he/she is pointed to the php classes site by Manuel Lemos or someone else...but you DONT see Manuel Lemos spamming the list every time a new class is put on his site...do you? he's got a newsletter for that like any responsible company/webmaster. This is a high volume list, and I get enough of "great product offers" every day from porn sites and medicial companies as we manage 13 sites... and the "one more won't hurt" is f***ing stupid. > Recommendations for the yog website, it is extremely misleading, > try > and change it to price for 1-9 licences. It sounds like its 1-9 licences > for that price. WHO CARE`S? you are one of their customers, you might. If you signed up for their newsletter and you recieve their updates good for you, the rest of us (most of us) do not care. Most (good) sites have a newsletter system for just this thing. > Anyway phpmyadmin is crap sorry, i avoid it like the plague, Fair enough, thats your opinion and we all respect it. But how would you like it if you started getting frequent updates in your mail everytime phpmyAdmin was updated? now wouldnt that be sweet? >2 cents Thanks, I'm saving it all up, every penny helps. :-D -Ryan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
