Sorry, but I have to respond to this because of the falicies that are involved with the whole issue.
* Thus wrote Manuel Lemos: > Hello, > > On 07/18/2004 10:21 PM, Curt Zirzow wrote: > >> > >>If you pay more attention you may notice that I always say that it > >>*sounds* like a PHP bug. I am not even saying that is necessarily a PHP > >>bug. > > > > > >what ever you are trying to say about it being a bug or not, it is > >one of the worst ways i've ever seen anyone try to plug their site. > > Wanting or not, the PHP mail() function alone always had many, many > bugs, as you may see here: > > http://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=display&status=All&bug_type%5B%5D=Mail+related Ok so a lot of bugs have been submited, and I do notice that they are either green or gray. Of which, in case you didn't read the legend. green == CLOSED (aka resolved and fixed!!!) gray == bogus. meaning the person was using the function improperly. One is currently assigned and is related to W32 with a 'rcpt to' issue. The other *only* open one is complaining that the 5th argument isn't working, and if you *look* closely at that open ticket, I'm currently working with him to make sure it isn't a bug with php. > > Anyway, I was wondering why would you bother to fight my explanations > with so much persistence. In the beginning, it seemed that you were not > really aware of the problems, but then you finally revealed yourself > when you showed when you said it upsets you that I am one of those > people that "that try to plug their site". I dont have a problem with Jason, Mr. Holmes, raditha or anybody who wishes to plug their work. The problem I have is someone falsely saying that php has a bug somewhere and say that their nifty little class fixes the problem when about 90% of the time it is due to the person not understanding the STMP protocol. I fight your explanations because they simply are bogus and dont have any substance. You claim on about 90% of the replies you make to people having problems with mail() that there is a problem with php, without, and I reiterate again... knowing what version of PHP they are using, what OS they are using, nor do you even take into consideration of what MTA they are using. and unlike what you suggested in one of your replies, MTA's differ greatly in their behaviour and cause a lot of reasons as why mail() simply isn't working. > > A quick search in Google for your name and it lead to this page. ooh.. > > http://pear.php.net/user/curt hah.. I didn't even know that existed. > > Hey, you are a PEAR zealot! Now it makes all the sense of the world that > you do not want me to lead people to the PHP Classes site. It seems you > are one of those people that think of the PHP Classes site as a > competitor of PEAR. I would not be surprised if you would enjoy if one > day the PHP Classes site was shutdown so PEAR did not have any competitors! Let me count how many packages i'm a maintainer of... lets see.. 0 + 0 makes ZERO! Ok. now you are *trying* to attack me personally. Why don't you look at all the google results to php-general and see how many times you've seen me suggest PEAR as a solution. You will simply find that I have suggested PEAR mabey 1 or 2 times out of the 3000 or so posts on php-general. If you need to know the reason why that account exists is because I'm a developer of PECL. You might want to do some research before making such idiotic statements. > > Man, relax. ok. i'm perfectly relaxed. >The PHP Classes site was not developed to compete with PEAR. read above. about how I am not at all affiliated with PEAR. > As a matter of fact the PHP Classes site was created before PEAR with > the specific intention to help me share many of my own classes so they > could get as many testing as possible, helping me to improve them with > bug reports and feature suggestions of their users. and the saga continues... > > That is my benefit from bothering to spend so much time developing Open > Source code and providing support to people that present problems that > can be solved with classes that I wrote. more saga and drama you insist on dragging into this trying to keep you're self superiour to everone else. > > I don't know if this interests you, but some time ago I gave an > interview to a russian PHP magazine regarding the PHP Classes, its > history and initiatives: > > http://www.phpinside.net/docs/mlemos.html oh. someone actually took the time and had an interview with you? Even with these credentials your credibitly is still low, oh wait this is just propoganda of your site that you somehow can't keep out of your replies. > > So, it certainly does not bother that PEAR zealots and friends come to > the mailing lists and help people recommending PEAR components that > solve their problems, why does it bother that I come here and do the > same suggesting components that I wrote that happen to be made available > in the PHP Classes site (or not)? Again, I dont and never use PEAR. I've been here for quite a while and rarely have suggested to any one PEAR. And after reading this I've come to the conclusion that you are the one with the problem with someone suggesting anything other than your site. You had said nothing of the likes until you falsely assumed I was a PEAR zealot > One suggestion: get over it. um. ok. >Better, if you have written any useful > classes that could solve other people's problems, feel free to submit > them to the PHP Classes site, even if you have contributed them to PEAR I wont contribute to your site, and you're doing a supper job convincing me I should even consider it. > as well, and benefit from the feedback and recognition that you may get > from sharing your work to the currently 170,000 subscribers of the site. > Several PEAR related classes have been published there already. > > http://www.phpclasses.org/pear > > If you have written something innovating, you may even be nominated to > the Innovation Award getting more recognition and prizes every month. Ok. now I'm begining to think somehow one of your templated emails got in here. You're tone sure has changed and has gone toward's promoting your site again. > > http://www.phpclasses.org/award/innovation > > I am serious, welcome aboard! haha.. aboard the anti manuel lemo's bandwagon, of course. Curt -- First, let me assure you that this is not one of those shady pyramid schemes you've been hearing about. No, sir. Our model is the trapezoid! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
