Im reading up a little on it, from the msdn site, "make your ASP pages
stateless if possible, relying on Session or Application variables for
transient state only"  Interesting, but not conculsive. ASP sucks
anyways.. 
Bottom line, PHP is definately stateless, and there is no Application()
equivilent in php.

Cheers
Jason

"Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> [snip]
> Im not so sure asp is completely stateless is it.  The application var
> will hold a var as long as the server is running, for any visitor.  The
> var doesnt need to be set each page load either.. 
> eg. Application("counter").. you can add to the counter on any page, by
> any visitor, at any time, and it will maintain that var untill your
> restart your server.  This suggests some sort of state doesnt ot??
> [/snip]
> 
> It depends on how you define "state". The ASP book that I have here says
> that it is stateless. The value of a variable may be set and "held" for
> each user, but there is no persistent connection to the variable. This
> action is pretty much like sessions in PHP
> 

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