Amazing how long that thread is -- must be a record. Seems to be classic case 
of 'ignore-the-obvious' or 'my-mind-is-made-up. Don't-confuse-me-with-facts'. 
Perhaps I should start a new thread:

"[PHP} Can't get NULL to output anything!!!!!"

hehe
Andre


On Friday 17 September 2004 03:11 pm, Jason Davidson wrote:
> hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
> thread..
>
> funny stuff.
>
> Jason
>
> Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> > > Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep
> > > insisting. I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and if and
> > > when other possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried the
> > > possibility of disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting upon it
> > > from others is not productive; it is more likley to polarize me in the
> > > opposite direction and get us to where we are now. It is the emotional
> > > commentary that is most unproductive. I try to explain (unemotionally
> > > and in a reasonable manner) that I don't need the additional assertion
> > > that I must try something and the response to that becomes emotional.
> >
> > Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your problem.
> > Time for another:
> >
> > [quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]
> >
> > > It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be
> > > relevant. I have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. If it
> > > is true that it is not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it
> > > is just causes confusion. If you had said that the firewall is not
> > > supposed to be relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I would say
> > > that I am totally able to think like that too. It is reasonable to try
> > > things like that to diagnose a bug.
> >
> > [quote]
> >
> > Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
> >
> > The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > solving his problem:
> >
> > [JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to mysql.
> > Try disabling it.
> > [SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has nothing
> > to do with it. Get real (and go away).
> >
> > The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > solving his problem:
> >
> > [JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try disabling
> > it anyway.
> > [SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.
> >
> >
> >
> > How silly is that?
> >
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