On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:54 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 1:02 AM -0700 5/21/09, Jim Lucas wrote:
> >Since this has been a topic of dicussion, I figured I would add my thoughts.
> >I have been toying with the idea of doing a <table>-less layouts
> >involving tabular data, calendars, etc...
> >Recent threads have finally made me do it. Let me know what you think.
> >http://www.cmsws.com/examples/templates/div_tables.phps (source for above)
> Any source for the above? :-)
> Your work, as always, is top-notch.
> I've tested both your table and calendar in other browsers and they
> work quite well-- congratulations.
> My thoughts are -- my understanding the reason why tables have
> received such bad-press is that designers have abused tables in
> holding designs together with nested tables AND in doing so made it
> difficult for the visually disabled to pull content from the site.
> Screen readers do not read the screen but rather read the source and
> pull out of it what they (the screen reader program) think is
> content. Translating nested tables becomes an impossible job for them.
> In that light, if one compares your code with the amount of code to
> do this with tables, I don't see much difference.
> With tables, one uses <tr> and <td> whereas your code uses <div
> class="table_tr"> and <div class="table_td"> -- while you do it
> nicely, I really don't see much difference in structure or verbosity.
> Furthermore, styling your table as compared to a standard table is
> nearly identical -- I don't see an advantage to either.
> Additionally, and not of your doing, even the new css tables don't
> solve this verbosity problem but instead offer more difficulties for
> browsers -- such as Safari doesn't understand caption-side correctly.
> In any event, I wouldn't mind seeing the php that creates your
> calendar. I'm working on a project at the moment where I need to
> review week, month, two-month, and three-month displays.
> http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com
Tedd, I've got a fairly simple calendar script in PHP here
which could be adapted fairly easily with the right tweaks.
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