i think the conversation lost momentum over the last weekend, i would like to 
interject some
thought onto the subject, that someone who designs logo's as a job told me about the 
process.  the
process wasnt setup for success if the people that are responsible for php needed to 
drive the
discussion and offer some guidelines, and ideas for the new potential logo.  the 
process seemed to
take a life of its own and spawned discussions that took off all over the place, 
rather then a
focused discussion.  the person that told me this, didnt have a problem taking those 
ideas and
working up several mock logos, and then working on this finished project, but it 
seemed the
further along the path we got on the discussion, the further off track we got.  there 
seemed to be
a lack of direction and a lack of a process.

dan mccullough
web technology 
garnethill.com
603.823.5545 x 1119
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--- David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  hmm, i remember not too long ago, people were suggesting a new logo for php... 
>wondering why
> nobody\'s discussing it now? or am i missing something?
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