in MySQL you could do something like:
CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE t
(s VARCHAR(1000) NOT NULL)
CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_slovak_ci;
choosing what you like from MySQL's charsets and collations on your server:
SHOW CHARACTER SET;
SHOW COLLATION;
see also:
http://www.collation-charts.org/mysql60/
now insert each of the strings you want to collate, one strong per row,
INSERT INTO t VALUES ('Sliač'), ('Snina'),
('Sládkovičovo'), ('Skalica'), ('Sobrance');
and then select them ordered by s
SELECT s FROM t ORDER BY s;
which yields your array of strings collated according to the MySQL
collation you specified when you created the table.
this method doesn't give you the control of ICU's collator but it might be
better than nothing.
On 1/18/11 4:34 PM, "Andre Polykanine" <an...@oire.org> wrote:
>Hello Tom,
>
>Thank you!
>Actually... hm... I didn't understand well about putting the array in
>a temporary table and sorting by collation... sorry for my ignorance.
>Thanks!
>
>
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>------------ Original message ------------
>From: Tom Worster <f...@thefsb.org>
>To: Andre Polykanine
>Date created: , 2:45:21 PM
>Subject: [PHP-I18N] How to make the i18n without serious tools?
>
>
> from what i know of yii, which is not a great deal, i would think
>you can
>use it without doing their whole mvc thing. why don't you try it and let
>us know? here's your lost email which also mentioned collation:
>
>On 1/17/11 11:12 AM, "Tom Worster" <f...@thefsb.org> wrote:
>
>>take a look at what yii offers:
>>http://www.yiiframework.com/doc/guide/1.1/en/topics.i18n
>>
>>for collation you can, in a pinch, put your array in a mysql temporary
>>table and sort it with a mysql collation.
>
>
>
>
>On 1/18/11 7:08 AM, "Andre Polykanine" <an...@oire.org> wrote:
>
>>Hello Tex,
>>
>>Yes, I'll see this as a way to make it also.
>>Sorry, I've lost the message that suggested me using Yii.
>>Actually I've looked into this, and I would like to use the i18n
>>tools of the framework. But is it possible to use them alone, without
>>the Yii itself? Because otherwise it'll mess up my folder structure...
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>--
>>With best regards from Ukraine,
>>Andre
>>Skype: Francophile
>>My blog: http://oire.org/menelion (mostly in Russian)
>>Twitter: http://twitter.com/m_elensule
>>Facebook: http://facebook.com/menelion
>>
>>------------ Original message ------------
>>From: Tex Texin <texte...@xencraft.com>
>>To: 'Andre Polykanine'
>>Date created: , 6:24:16 AM
>>Subject: [PHP-I18N] How to make the i18n without serious tools?
>>
>>
>> For Web applications you may as well maintain your strings in a
>>database.
>>
>>The language table will have columns for message key, language
>>identifier, and string.
>>MSG0, en-US, Welcome to our website!
>>MSG0, fr-CA, .....
>>MSG125, en-US, blah blah...
>>MSG125, fr-CA, ....
>>
>>You can be a bit more clever and have keys consist of web page and id, so
>>that you can easily read into n array all the keys associated with a page
>>for a single language, and then reference them from the array rather than
>>individual database calls. But with good database cacheing, it¹s not
>>always a significant optimization.
>>
>>
>>tex
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Andre Polykanine [mailto:an...@oire.org]
>>Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:49 AM
>>To: php-i18n@lists.php.net
>>Subject: [PHP-I18N] How to make the i18n without serious tools?
>>
>>Hello Php-i18n,
>>I need to make my projects international. However, my hosting provider
>>won't install anything for me, so no GetText, no ICU.
>>Could you suggest me something?
>>I tried to make constants definitions like this:
>><?
>>define("MSG0", "Welcome to our website!");
>>...
>>define(MSG125", "blah blah");
>>?>
>>But it's reeeally hard to maintain in future.
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>--
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>>Andre
>>Skype: Francophile
>>Twitter: http://twitter.com/m_elensule
>>Facebook: http://facebook.com/menelion
>>
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